Secret #7: I Believe in Heredity

Secret #7:  I Believe in Heredity

I believe in the simple principle of genetics, “Heredity is handed down from one generation to the next.”  No one can start with mediocre pigeons and castoffs from several different fanciers, and hope to come up with anything that is close to an established family of pigeons that will pass on the needed quality genes and traits.  Therefore, select from a family of pigeons that has bred continuous winners over a long period of time, at least 10 years in tough competition.

If you are not breeding from winners or children of winners, you are in trouble!  This is where it all starts.  All the time and money spent for care and training throughout the year can amount to hours of frustration, disappointment and expense.  Pairing the best with the best does not necessarily guarantee success, but it definitely increases the chances of it.

In both the racing and breeding lofts, the true value of a pigeon will be found only by actual tests, either by flying or by the quality of young it produces.  The true tests of a quality breeder are the performance and breeding success of its offspring, not its own race record.  If a bird cannot reproduce itself or better, it is no good as a breeder and should be culled.  Remember results will not be seen in one year.  It will take 2 years to see any real evidence.

Secret #7:  I Believe in Heredity By Bob Prisco

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  1. #1 by van noort p on March 17, 2011 - 12:55 am

    I cant agree more Mike, I’ve been experiencing with supposedly top loft birds and have been a bit dissapointed, this being for long distance birds , if a bird cant fly 900 km on the day under normal weather conditions I wont breed from it, and then I will only find one out of six worth keeping after they are 2 year olds. Keep up the great site I really enjoy the articles, comments and doing things differently, I am way down under (New Zealand ) and flying birds from Christchurch to Whangarei (960km ) is every fanciers goal. Greetings Pim(Pigeonwood and Farsidelofts.)

  2. #2 by trev on September 4, 2010 - 5:40 pm

    There is some good info there , as i have bread from winners with No sucsess.

  3. #3 by Ahmed on August 17, 2010 - 4:59 am

    Heredity is handed down from one generation to the next this is totally true

  4. #4 by Mel Knight on July 17, 2010 - 11:16 pm

    Nes comers to the sport of Racing pigeons should obtain good! young birds in the beginning. From local lofts that are on the top of the race sheet that fly the same race course as you intend to fly. Try to attain birds that have a family history of being above average racers. That is ask yourself is the loft in the top ten frequently, has the loft got a history of consistent race winners? There is not much sense in spending a lot of money buying birds from out of the Country or from a different part of the Coubtry that you live in. Until you prove to yourself that you are able to fly pigeons with the same success as the loft where you obtained the birds from. If you can compete on the same level as the loft where you obtained the stock from. You can then better the quality of your pigeons by purchasing or importing stock to enhace the quality of your family of racers..

    A friend in the sport

  5. #5 by Ron Osgood on July 17, 2010 - 4:32 pm

    I agree breeding from winners one has a better chance of success then not. But that’s only one element of many that needs to be in place. A good handler can out perform the fella down the street that has the big money birds. There’s a lot of variables that need to be lined up to be constantly at the top of the sheet. Common sense is huge. To have an adventurous nature, experiment. One does not have to accept the normal approach, especially if his other committments (family-work-God)need time to. One should not be afraid to try new things or come up with new ideas not only with the birds but the loft, training, feeding. I always say listen, learn watch you will educate yourself.

  6. #6 by Greg Brooks- Homewood Loft on June 17, 2010 - 8:46 am

    Congratulations on the start of an EXCELLENT debate!!! This is why I love this site and what you are doing for pigeon fanciers all over the world. You need good genetics- but a WHOLE lot more! I happen to agree with both well presented arguments. If you are new to a club, new to racing, you are highly unlikely to succeed if you don’t start with birds with physical, mental and emotional characteristics as good as the lofts your competing with. However, just because you have the money to buy the best birds in the world, they’re not going to build their own loft, run their own health program, train themselves both for direction and distance, that is up to you, their owner and loft manager. Fantastic birds don’t fall back-asswards into history- they are driven there by top flyers. We should probably stop blaming the birds so much. I’m still not a cull freak- I believe in controlling the breeding- only breed your best to best, and toss any eggs from lesser birds. I’ll cull quickly to eliminate a disease (thank God haven’t had any tough trouble there in decades) and I will pop the head off any bird that destroys young- I don’t care if he is gorgeous George and flies 500 mph. The bird shouldn’t have any motivation to skin the head of a squeaker if there is adequate room and no overcrowding and pairs aren’t inadvertently separated.

  7. #7 by Gene Miller on June 16, 2010 - 10:19 am

    I tend to disagree with this premise. Quality in today’s racing pigeons is easily found. It is a myth to believe there is such a thing as “superior stock”. Of course you can’t win with birds you found on the docks, however, most people with any good racing stock can provide you with a start. The group of pigeons that responds to your particular program are what you really need. Not every high quality bred family of birds will do that and there is no genetic family of birds that will respond to every handler. The very best families will do you no good if they do not respond well to your handling and this rule applies to the best of handlers so genetics plays less of a role than you might believe.
    In this day and age it is fairly easy to clone racing pigeons. It does not happen very often because the results are disheartening. A clone is the exact genetic copy of the original. If you cloned the very best speciman of a racing pigeon you could find 100 times you may never get the same racing results from any of the 100 that the original exhibitted. In fact, the odds are about equal to those you would find in any quality breeding program. Out of the 100 exact copies that were created, you would be lucky to obtain results where more than one or two of these birds are superior performers. Here is the truth in genetics, proving once again, that a true racing champion is more likely to come as a result of its environment than from genetics.

  8. #8 by mike on June 16, 2010 - 4:51 am

    Hi Bob,
    I could not agree more,good breeds good,strays breed strays.In my loft they get three years,if after this time they have never been in the clock,or in the stock loft, never bred a bird to time in,then they are all destined for the soup kitchen.
    It is important when adding new stock, not only to purchase from a winning loft but from a loft that’s birds breed winners in other lofts,remember you are buying the birds not the fancier.
    enjoy your birds Mike..

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