How Would You Classify Your Knowledge of Pigeons?


I hope your enjoying the website, as much as I am enjoying making it! 🙂 and I really want to get to know you better, I also really want to get a good feel of your comfort level with pigeons this way we can continue to bring you more informative content that better suits your needs.

So in this weeks discussion of the week I would like to know…

If you had to classify your knowledge of pigeons how would you classify yourself? would you classify yourself as a beginner, intermediate, advanced or expert? and why would you classify yourself as that?

It would also be great if you can add into your comments how long you have been involved with pigeons as well for example 1year, 20years etc.

So go ahead and post your comments by clicking here.

I am really looking forward to hearing from you and getting to know you better!

Yours in the sport,

Discussion of the week, How Would You Classify Your Knowledge of Pigeons?

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  1. #1 by allan(oragaon homing pigeon sports club) on April 4, 2011 - 2:16 am

    hi gud pm sir chris sorry for a long time that i have no reply becasue i am verry and out of town. by the way i would like to thnaks to pigeon insider and also to sir chris thank you verry much. i’m injoying to read all posts about pigeon techniques and thanks for sharing your best opinion.thanks for verry informative tips about pigeon health, proper training, rigth midicine and consistent about pigeon strategy and etc. related to pigeon tips.. i have an observation my pigeon and loft to to improve my pigeon athlete’s.. so again appriciate your comment about racing pigeon how to improve my knoledge about racing pigeon. thansk and more power to pigeonsider. god bless u all. MABUHAY KAYO>.
    allan(ohps)naga city. bicol philippines

  2. #2 by Lee Fessenden on March 18, 2011 - 4:55 pm

    I have kept pigeons for most of my life and won a few races out in southern california as a junior with some stock given to me by one of the best out there at that time. I got bk into racing a little over ten yrs ago and have done ok in some of the cheeper one loft races with my whites and have just started with my colored birds last year again. We do not have a local combine here where I live so I have to send birds off for someone else to train out and finish so my true knowelege has not been put to the teat here, though I would consider myself an expert in pairing birds for breeding and for racing them myself as I have had exceptional luck with my whites in the Release business with birds coming back from 135 to 250 miles over terrane that they were not trained out over. They are coming home on the day and without losses and having to fly over mountians to get home and they have never trained out over the mountians.
    God Bless, Lee

  3. #3 by whiteflight on March 10, 2011 - 1:12 pm

    i would class myself has a pigeon expert,over the years i have won more 1st prizes than you can shake a stick at, this his including gold cup winner in federation section winners in the n f c and midland nation this including 1st open m n f c in one season i actually won in the access of £7.000.
    i have had pigeons all my life has far back has i can remember my brother and i won the young birds average in local club back in 1961.

  4. #4 by byron gower on February 19, 2011 - 10:36 am

    Hi it is Byron from SOUTH AFRICA.I have had pigeons for 29 years but,feel one needs allot of learning to understand the pigeon.I went to different lofts in 2010 and picked out the champs in other lofts.There is just something about champs that you learn over the years.I have never raced in my home town with my pigeons as believe to do things correctly.Soon i will will make my stand and put my pigeon wits together.

  5. #5 by chris burton on February 11, 2011 - 2:10 am

    First year back to pigeons after about 10 year break. Enjoying a great deal but battling with hawks eating birds everyday. I would say I am an intermediate. Learn alot from youe website and look forward to getting news every couple days. Keep up the good work. chris zimbabwe

  6. #6 by FRANS FERREIRA on February 9, 2011 - 3:50 am


  7. #7 by romeo m.fader on February 3, 2011 - 7:33 am

    almost 2 years and i enjoy youre web about pigeon insider i read more knowledge about pigeon thanks

  8. #8 by Jaco Venter on January 30, 2011 - 9:30 am

    I am in South Africa and is in the sport for 18 years now. But i am still learning everyday

  9. #9 by Alister murray on January 22, 2011 - 7:49 pm

    I have kept pigeons for about 15yrs give or take, and feel fairly knowledgeable on the health and keeping of pigeons.But due to financial pressure,havent done a whole lot of racing,so I guess you could call me a beginner in that department.But have enjoyed a few win,s at club level.I do hope to do more racing as it’s such a buzz when you see your birds dropping from a hard race,and then waiting for the results to come in.But also just love to watch the birds flying around the back love this pigeon site.It’s great to read comments from other fanciers from all around the world and very reassuring to know how much we all love these fantastic little creatures.I especially enjoy reading comments from beginners about how keen and enthusiastic they are.That still gives me Goose bumps,as it reminds me about how I felt when I got my first pair of pigeons.Good luck and best wishes to all in the sport.

  10. #10 by bill h on January 20, 2011 - 9:00 pm

    Hi i thanks web site is great so keep up good work . I have race pigeon for last 25 years thanks

  11. #11 by john on January 19, 2011 - 5:45 am

    hi people has anyone else noticed on any site in any book how good flyers wont say how they feed for race days. they all go i feed a bit of this bit of that .i beleive that many a good pigeon is put down cos like my self i have never got the feed just right ,ask the top flyer in your club to write down how he feeds so you can try to beat him ,that will be a ha ha no .then they wonder why we give up and go fishing

    • #12 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on January 22, 2011 - 12:33 am


  12. #13 by john on January 18, 2011 - 1:37 pm

    i find the site good for information in all aspects. i think there are are articles for old and new flyers. i think i come in the intermeidate stage.

  13. #14 by christopher A. Trella on January 13, 2011 - 6:56 pm

    Not a “expert”! got lots of books on pigeons too! Had many,many,types of pigeons over the last 30 yrs. Mostly homers,always had some racers. But, along with them, esp. when I was a kid, many fancy’s, tipplers,rollers, even some “wild” street pigeons. Since getting online, I’ve met many fanciers from around the world who have breeds I really have not seen before! Which of course, makes it all the more fun! They say ya never stop learning, hope “they” are right.

  14. #15 by Nuno C Neves on January 11, 2011 - 7:08 pm

    Hello, I am a biginner that just finished his first loft and am starting my breeding program with birds that I got from local flyers. Thank you for the website that is very informative . The fact that a lot of your readers are biginners , helps me with some answers to topics that I needed answers to and other topics that I never though of , but are as important.
    Keep up the great work!
    Nuno (rhode Island)

  15. #16 by AROCK 7DS on January 7, 2011 - 11:37 am

    to billy thanks again now that i started breedin the info is gladly ex good luck and thanks again talk to you later

    • #17 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on January 21, 2011 - 10:29 pm

      So, is every thing going as planed?. The YB’S growing as fast as you want?.

      • #18 by AROCK 7DS on February 12, 2011 - 9:20 am

        everything is so fsr so good thanks the only thing now is im traing and the hawks are killing me any comment anyboby and im feedin two time a day because of all the yb any mixer so they want be so heavy i just lost five yb in trainin thanks

  16. #19 by AROCK 7DS on January 6, 2011 - 10:41 am

    to billy thanks all of yous out there great post read them all always learnin more thanks to chris and the champs someday i too will have a champ orlando fl

    • #20 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on January 6, 2011 - 8:13 pm

      Carlos, I flew birds in the Orlando club since 1989 & in 1992 when i started medicating my birds i started winning. florida is a very warm & wet place, this is a breeding ground for parasites, this is why you have to keep on top of it. Themost common is Respitory-worms& canker. I also medicate the breeders when they are raising youngsters!. Give them in the water 1 week canker meds, the next week give them respitory in water, the next week canker in water. do this every monday & vitamins on tuesday. So, 1st MON respitory-Tuesday vitamins. Next monday-canker-tuesday vitamins. Next monday cocci-tusday -vitamins. when the babies are about to come out of the loft give them a WORMER & thenext day vitamins!. You will have the healthiest babies you have ever had in your LIFE!. BILLY

  17. #21 by paul pashley on January 2, 2011 - 8:58 pm

    in this game you will always learn things no matter how much you think you no .ive had pigeons 30 years and stil learning .5yrs ago 1x1st 4yrs ago i bought van camps at great expense im now getting 16x1st per year . quality will always tell paul pashley blue diamond lofts at

  18. #22 by Joe Martino on December 10, 2010 - 8:52 pm

    Have had birds since about 1960 on and off. Raced in 1962 and then again in 1980 for a few years. Just getting back into it and would consider myself a beginner. So much has changed in the last 30 years with medication etc.. It’s liks starting all over again. Looks like it will be about a year by the time I get lofts built and a team of old birds ready to go before I’ll be able to race. Should be fun. Oh yes I forgot about all the electronics needed now to race:) Should be interesting:)

  19. #23 by Dan Cojocaru on December 10, 2010 - 4:27 pm

    This website very very good for my knowledge of pigeons.

    Thank you very,very much for this website.

  20. #24 by Janie S on November 20, 2010 - 6:48 pm

    Hi All! I’ve kept pigeons for 30 years and enjoy them immensely. It’s a great pleasure just to hear them coo and squeak when they’re babies. Sweetest creatures in the world. I bought my first pair of pedigreed racers in July 2010 and am planning on trying my hand at racing with their youngsters next year so I welcome all the information off your website here. Thank you! Janie S

  21. #25 by AROCK 7DS on November 17, 2010 - 9:57 pm


    • #26 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on January 5, 2011 - 8:41 pm

      you need to give them, wormer ,respitory, canker &cocci treatment & vitamins the day after every medication. billy in florida

  22. #27 by Jerry on November 17, 2010 - 9:35 pm

    I won’t rate myself, we all have lots to learn when it comes to pigeons…they’re like kids, they’ll make a liar out of you more times than not. I got my first pair of racing pigeons when I was 7. I traded a baby flying squirrel for 2 blue bars, it took me about a year to figure out that neither of them were hens so I turned them out, they stayed around for a while then took off looking for mates I guess. They never came back after that. I caught and kept bridge pigeons (commons) all through high school. I got racing pigeons and joined a club in 1980, been in it off and on ever since, I’ve learned a lot but nobody knows it all.

  23. #28 by jpsnapdy on November 8, 2010 - 9:11 am

    It is really good to see so many experienced and famous fanciers on this web site but even more, it’s great to see soooo many beginners. Wow! This means that contrary to common belief, pigeon keeping is not a dying pass-time. Of course, how nice it would be if all you guys were racing pigeon fanciers!
    As for myself, Ive been in and out of pigeons since I was a kid, around the age of 6. I live in India and there were always pigeons on the property as far as I can remember. The birds were “homers” and were used for the table. I used to love watching them fly in and out of the loft. After I got a job, I got some racing pigeons from the KRPC fanciers but it wasn’t ’til I met my mentor Lt. Col. Smith, that my knowledge and level got better.
    To all fanciers in India, I suggest that we form a group first on the internet to promote the sport. Anyone interested can mail me at
    Yours in the sport,

  24. #29 by Al Thompson on November 7, 2010 - 10:51 am

    I guess I’d call myself an advanced beginner. I joined a club and started raising birds in March of this year. My loft is small but clean. My birds are healthy and have been through YB racing season. I only lost one bird in a race up until two weeks ago when I lost three. That race was a disaster for everyone. I’m planning my permanent loft but have been delayed due to a loss of full time work. This is not a poor mans sport. -Allen

  25. #30 by chris on November 3, 2010 - 2:09 pm

    i think i have a bi of know but theres always somethink to learn but longs my birds are happy then i dont care weather they win or dont but i would like to read up on natural systerm so if anyon got any please e-mail them to

    yours in the sport chris

    my forum

  26. #31 by liam gaynor on November 3, 2010 - 5:39 am

    Hi chris
    I would class myself as a beginner as i had pigeons when i was young
    but stared back up now at the age of 47.
    i love hav.nt them and looking after them i.v 16 a great hobby as i.m out of work and i can spened alot of time with them i.m not racing as i.v alot to lean about that.but i have to say your wedsite is great for beginners as im learning from it.thanks for all yours emails great help
    your.s in sport liam

  27. #32 by dinesh on October 30, 2010 - 4:23 am

    i have kept pigeons last 2 years,still beginner and enjoy with tham.
    thank you very much

  28. #33 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on October 20, 2010 - 11:04 pm

    Well then, the birds i will be breeding from are all in their section ( cocks that is).i managed to put 18 cocks in a loft with 18 boxes. only 5 of those 18 cocks where in this loft last year. The cool thing is all 18 coks picked all 18 boxes in less than 24 hours!, WOW!. No fighting,no birds sleeping on the ground,

  29. #34 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on October 20, 2010 - 10:51 pm

    i would say border line expert,because ive had the best pigeon in all of north america in 2 catagories. in 2007 1st overall ace pigeon & is long distance ace pigeon. the same bird won bothe awards! His #is au 05 ORL 0029 DCC. Huysken Van Riel. He now lives in JAPAN HE sold for $10,000 USD. I miss him but 10 g’s is 10 g’s. all his wins where in the 200 loft catagory. usually more than 2500 birds a race. he was the product of 1/2 bro 1/2 sis mating. his dad had 9 diplomas!

  30. #35 by jerry sumner on October 19, 2010 - 6:47 am

    i have been in homers for 2 years, i had rollers when i was younger. i am on bisabelity on a set income. its hard for me to buy the good homers. i jound csi pigeon club, out of verdnan indiana. a small club but a good family oreanted. if you have a pair of race birds, you dont need let me know. 1-270-233-5848

  31. #36 by Steve Poulter on October 18, 2010 - 3:22 am

    Hi everyone,
    I would class myself as an intermediate, I have been keeping birds for the past 8 years and have had some success at both club, section, federation and national level. I enjoy the challenge of racing the birds and great a great buzz when I watch them return, especially if it’s a good time!
    Yours in sport,
    Steve Poulter

  32. #37 by Warren Smith on October 17, 2010 - 5:18 pm

    I first started with pigeons in 1965, and there were some long gaps inbetween military and wives. But, to tell you the truth, the more I learn, the more I realise, that I don’t really know very much about pigeons at all. I also suspect that the length of time that one has kept pigeons does NOT provide a real accuarate indication of one’s knowledge, cause some folks have simply been doing the same thing over and over again, and often expecting different results. I am only guessing, but I suspect that one could spend several dozen life times, and still not even scratch the surface of all there is to learn about pigeons.

    Warren Smith
    Smith Family Loft USA

  33. #38 by Whitney on October 17, 2010 - 4:39 pm

    I am a young flyer from MN. I have been flying for three years so I consider myself as an intermidiate. I have been blessed to have guys mentor me and teach me how to fly. I still have a lot to learn but slowly but surely I am getting the hang of this sport. My loft has about 45-50 birds and I am very close to them. The worst part of this sport is losing pigeons that are especially dear. On our last race, we had a smash race and I lost 3 of 5 birds, one of which is my favorite YB. I just love my pigeons and all of the dear people involved with the sport. I guess I could say that my dream job would be to work for the AU! In a few short weeks I will be taking a dream trip to the AU Convention!! see all you flyers there!

  34. #39 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on October 15, 2010 - 10:33 pm

    Well hello!, i just stopped my YB season so i could breed more YB’S of the same family next year. I bred 65 young ones out of 5 pair. I also gave a kit of 12 to my brother,sold some & of course Mr. Hawk had his meals. I raced the birds for 4 weeks & won 3 races, so i am happy, the birds now will join their parents to make me more of the same family of these birds.I whant to go into the YB season with atleast 65 or so & the OB season with 20 widowers. so this i think is the way to go. The birds i used to have where HVR’s & Imbrechts. I have won 1st place 4 times in the FLORIDA FEDERATION, 179 lofts competeing. 2600 birds or more a week!.acctually i have won the 400 3 times, twice with the same bird!. so i sold the best cock i had to JAPAN for 10,000 in 2008. then i decide to try somthing better. Well luck had it that our combine held an auction in 09 for MR. Gerard Koopman. After spending some time with him & handling his birds & seeing his results the decision was maid!. All my old family was sold and i only have KOOPMANS & Some PIETER VEENSRA Pigeons in my loft! from what i see i like!. till next time Billy K&K LOFT 407-765-4670

  35. #40 by Gene on October 14, 2010 - 3:17 pm

    Hi my name is Gene Rose and I am a beginner in the sport. I got into as a hobby and am now enjoying breeding and flying my birds. I currently have a small loft we call the Pigeon Ranch. We started with 16 young birds ( less the 40 days old) and a mated pair 2 years old. We now have 12 young birds left and our pair is currently sitting on 2 eggs! I have learned a lot from your site and purchased the Racing Formula which has been a big help. Thanks for everything.


    • #41 by Billy Karapiperis ( K&K LOFT) on October 15, 2010 - 10:44 pm

      Gene, your on the right track. there are way’s to breed your birds all at the same time as to get all pairs on eggs at the same time! wich is ideal,but as for just getting started you are doing fine. Remember when raisig babies ALLWAY’S add grit every time you feed!,i meen every day, that is 1 off my secrets for breeding so many healthy youngbirds. Take care………….Billy K&K LOFT

  36. #42 by James Watson on October 12, 2010 - 7:32 pm

    I have raced pigeons for 20 years, I am no expert but always listen to any advice given.

  37. #43 by arthur on September 8, 2010 - 1:21 pm

    hi i have been keeping pigeons for 40 years and dont think myself an expert you learn every day with pigeons

  38. #44 by Andy Rivera on August 31, 2010 - 7:36 pm

    Advanced there are very few experts out there what is out there is years of experience what seems to work for you might not work for others, I’ve had pigeons just about my whole life Homers since 2003 I’ve seen flyer’s dominate one year than fall off the sheet the next consistency comes with healthy birds that are trained
    Even the best flyer’s go through times of trouble were loses are high pigeons are not in form etc. If you are a beginner and you are reading this Please keep in mind no one will care about your pigeons but you flyer’s in your club are not going to give you winning birds from winning family’s or even sell them to you everybody’s trying to win,You don’t have to spend alot of money my best advise try to get baby’s from club members that forgot to band them,Keep a hand full of birds,keep loft clean,Cool in the summer,Warm in the winter.

  39. #45 by leon on August 25, 2010 - 11:51 am

    i am a biginer i just started i have 11 pairs that i got from good gays with good history so i am breading for next year when i wil start flying and i am in south africa alberton

  40. #46 by Michael Spiegelberg on August 23, 2010 - 11:14 pm

    Hello , Nice Meeting Everyone …. I had pigeons as a Younger Kid and Into My Teanage Years and now am teaching my own children and things have changed since when i was younger – our family has Homers ( 10 Birds ) and our 1st eggs are in the nest now — and when old enough this is when i’ll teach my children about Flight and return — and after this I am looking to give my homers to a new Beginner and get Into Saddle Homers and possibly rollers — I consider myself to be new to the hobby with some experience and knowledge but I also tuely find in this Hobby that you never stop learning — Genetics – colors – illnesses – medications – Foods — Etc . Theres always something to learn about ! and remember you saddle homer people and roller people we are in search of some Birds ! Peace !

  41. #47 by Rudolp on August 23, 2010 - 2:09 am

    I am involve since 12 October 1976, but I only race since 1999, and I classify myself as intermediate. I am always under the first 30 of my union with +- 140 members. Have a nice day. Rudolph

  42. #48 by mr. harry loft on August 17, 2010 - 4:33 am

    Well this is my second year flying. Your pigeon insider has helped me considerably my race year will be a lot better this year thank you

  43. #49 by Izak Potgieter on August 10, 2010 - 11:03 pm

    I would classify myself as an expert having raced pigeons for 41 years although one is never too old te learn – racing pigeons has the great power of holding your feet on the ground – just when you think you know everything you fly a bad race which keeps you humble.

  44. #50 by Vernon Egan on July 6, 2010 - 12:29 pm

    Iwill class myself as a biginner, i have been keeping pigeons for just over a year now. On saturday i flew my first yearling race and was very pleased with my results, i got 5 birds in the top 30 in my club and 56th in the fedaration not to bad for the first time out.
    cheers Vernon

  45. #51 by Jerry Tippel on June 12, 2010 - 12:41 pm

    Well I have been with Pigeons since 1947. So I Have seen a lot and learn a lot in all these years .By my mistakes and commend sense. I can’t see me with out the birds.

  46. #52 by RAY BROWER on June 12, 2010 - 11:20 am


  47. #53 by Spiderman on June 1, 2010 - 2:47 am

    Above from beginners since I read a lot of your articles but I am very far to become an expert. Our memory is becoming limited once we grow older. I’ll find this site as a refreshment for every challenges that I experience in taking care of pigeons. More power and keep up your good works!!! c”,)

  48. #54 by cu on May 31, 2010 - 11:40 pm

    I am a rank beginner! or I should say we are. We are flying birds as a clan with three adults and three children participating. We got our first birds in December ’08 and the members of our club gave us young birds and breeders and one even built our almost 1000 sq ft loft. Last year we lost 32 of our 34 YB on our first race. A kind club member gave us about 45 late hatch birds. We are flying an OB team of cocks..and are enjoying all of it. So this is our second season……cu

  49. #55 by joe on May 21, 2010 - 8:00 am

    i’ve been flying since 1992, started in my late fifties. personally i don’t think my knowledge of our birds is very good. quite frankly i don’t think we know enough about these amazing little creatures and the more we leave them alone the better off they are. i have won a few concourse races threw no fault of mine. with all the man made adversities (satellites, here in CA, the skunk works, china lake, edwards, mojave airport, etc.) it is a wonder they make it home at all.

  50. #56 by Paul on May 21, 2010 - 7:29 am

    Hi great wedsite
    Its hard to say at what level of fancier I am because as I think I am
    moving up the ladder you get a curve ball, and you need to relook
    at your methods etc.

    Chris yes the info and advise is great. As the sport has become so competative
    you wonder if you can trust the advise you get from your fellow competitors

  51. #57 by ricky singh on May 7, 2010 - 2:00 am

    this is my 3year racing pigeons,I am a bigginer

  52. #58 by Raja on April 25, 2010 - 3:32 am

    Hi Chris, You seem to be one of the best teacher i have ever come across. You knowledge on pigeons and their activities is so impressing. In our locality the art of pigeon racing is kept as a secret book. So that the new comer ends up as a loser. This website is like a fuel that’s quenching my thirst now and then. Mr.Chris you are doing a great job than any of us. Keep going. Thank You very much.

  53. #59 by agius m on April 19, 2010 - 8:00 am

    i have been in the sport more than 30 years and still i feel myself as a novice. in malta last year champion won’t find him in the list this year. we have many difficulties. in shiping weather. etc

  54. #60 by Roger B. on April 14, 2010 - 11:47 pm

    Roger, A new beginner that has forgotten a lot over the years. The web site is great. Had birds years ago and now just getting started up again and can’t wait to fly. I am looking foreward to learning more and more every day to try to get the knowledge needed to be good at it.

    Roger Betland.

  55. #61 by RAY BROWER on April 11, 2010 - 1:59 pm


  56. #62 by Tom Makowecki on April 11, 2010 - 10:35 am

    I am in western Canada and had pigeons since I was 5 years old….I have had more than my share of success from my start to the present day. Many of the thoughts I had in my early years have been proven WRONG… now it is difficult to say anything is 100%…….There are more good pigeons than “good pigeon fanciers”…. so continue to learn and enjoy. As long as fanciers enjoy their pigeons – they do not have to be knowledgeable…..but one can enjoy the sport more if one always trys to learn and adapt…….as in life NOTHING remains the same.

  57. #63 by Camille Menier on March 22, 2010 - 11:31 am

    I am in homing pigeons since 1956. I consider that i am an advanced in pigeons but i still learn everyday, not only new tricks but deeper knowlegde because nowadays there are more and more science in our sport. It is in SELECTION and PAIR MATCHING where we know little as breeding is THE lotery of combination of genes. We progress in the genetic principle but we are hardly able to properly avaluate the genetic potential of any pigeon beforehand. We all have to try it and it is where we are almost all equal and novice. A new comer can produce champions like a veteran. This is the beauty of this sport where experience plays a role but not major. Obervation of the pigeons and dedication are paramount. Good luck to all

  58. #64 by Jeff Ragsdale on March 20, 2010 - 2:31 pm

    I am a beginner to the sport less than one year.

  59. #65 by Qasim Khan on March 19, 2010 - 4:08 pm

    I am from Pakistan and have been flying pigeons since 1959.I am a writer
    of a 400 pages book, kabooteron ke bemarian or elaj[diseases of pigeons
    and treatment] In this book there are220 four colour pictures of clinical signs
    and postmortem lesions. According to Pakistani fancier this is the best book ever
    written about diseases of pigeons. There are ten new diseases first time
    I have detected, with there postmortem lesions pictures in my book. Beside
    All I think I am beginner.

    • #66 by John Narciso on May 6, 2010 - 9:57 am

      Hello Qasim,
      Can you tell me if this book has been printed in english and who the publisher is? It sounds very interesting.
      400 pages!!! That is VERY good for a beginner… 😀

      Good luck to you and your birds.

  60. #67 by suneboy on March 16, 2010 - 4:13 pm

    i know everythink about the pigeon racing game when im winning i also have a looong nose lol.

    • #68 by John Narciso on May 6, 2010 - 9:58 am

      Hey Pinochio!!!

      long time, no see!!!!

  61. #69 by Brian M on March 7, 2010 - 8:19 am

    I have kept pigeons since 2007. I do not race them as of yet. I raise modena pigeons and this is how the racing homers and I came to be together. The homers are by far the greatest parents ( feeders ). When I got my homers I got lucky and did get what I believe to be some good stock. I like to fly them and am trying to learn just what I need to know to compete in the racing world. This site is getting me closer. Thank you for your time. I would call myself a beginner.

  62. #70 by tuija ylönen on March 4, 2010 - 12:58 pm

    I’m from Finland. I have been a racing pigeon loft since 2002. We have six in Finland in the summer of pigeon racing. I’ve won many times. I have a number of very good pigeons. Currently, pigeons are forty.

  63. #71 by Ken Kobus on February 21, 2010 - 6:56 pm

    Advanced. Have had pigeons for 45 years off and on. Showing and racing. Have copd, but it is probably pbl as well. Search for knowledge constantly.

    Comment on the increase in sickness lately. Germs are evolving everyday. The drugs used are becoming too low dosed and the germs resistant. Read a recent article that discovered the germs have developed a defense and an additive to the drugs will kill germs at a lower dosage, like when the drugs were first used. Flu for instance mutates as it travels. These are living organisms. Survival of the fittest.

    I make mistakes and need to learn from them, like anyone else. Pigeon raising is great because there is so many avenues to travel and what you think is the best is up to you. The birds adjust.

  64. #72 by Bob on February 20, 2010 - 9:51 pm

    I have been flying pigeons for over 30 years, but find I still make mistakes. I have a sign posted in my loft that reads “Your pigeons make far fewer mistakes than you do!” Most of our failures can be traced to our own mistakes, either comission or omission.

  65. #73 by paul aaron gueta-gojar/philippines on February 17, 2010 - 7:15 am

    paul aaron gueta-gojar :to be exact 9months with some knowledge. . .pigeon insider is great, i learned alot and get some new idea and techniquesfrom your webpages.thank you & more power.

  66. #74 by paul aaron gueta-gojar on February 17, 2010 - 7:08 am

    to be exact 9months with some knowledge. . .
    pigeon insider is great, i learned alot and get some new idea and techniques
    from your webpages.thank you & more power.

  67. #75 by Brian Alexander on February 15, 2010 - 1:33 pm

    hi there
    i have been racing pigeons with my father for about 30 years and now on my own with some success and some daft mistakes.i think that would make put me in the advanced bracket i like eyesign,last but i must like the stance first to attrac me to the bird then the inspection begins.i fly the wildersmersch pigeons with some van reets over the last few years stillplaying catchup with the wildies though.

  68. #76 by alex on February 11, 2010 - 9:18 am

    A beginner.I’ve been involved with game cock before.A friend in Badminton game introduced me to it.He loaned me some of his breeders that he is not using.He’s a member of PHA pigeon club here in the Phils.For your info.PHA is an elite(no.10 pigeon club in my country.I also try reading as many books I can about pigeon.I try to put my knowledge in gamecock breeding to pigeon breeding,like keeping records of both parents and its offspring.I also e-mailed my friend in Canada to bring me books about pigeon.I’m crossing my fingers to what will come out of my produce this comong racing North season.thanks so much

  69. #77 by Bill Shamblin on February 7, 2010 - 7:24 am

    This is a great website!
    As for my experience, I would have to say beginner. I have had various cage birds for over 25 years. Never pigeons till a few months ago. I find some things transfer and some don’t. My pigeons (first, a pair of Barkels Lemons, and now three pairs of assorted racers) have been a real education. I’ve made a few mistakes, but have one fledgling and two eggs at the moment. Looking forward to seeing what the new birds will do. Thanks Tony and Thad!
    Bill in Moore Co., NC

  70. #78 by adri strauss on February 6, 2010 - 5:29 am



  71. #79 by terry on February 5, 2010 - 9:21 pm

    Seems with pigeons the more you know the less you seem too. Strange isn’t it.When racing these beautiful birds of ours, one week we are on top of the world with a win etc, thinking we are doing everything right and nothing can beat us, and the very next week just the opposite happens. We beat our brains trying to find out what we did wrong, only to find we did everything the same, or so we thought.Pigeons are a daily challenge and a complete learning experience, we need to learn and observe each day with them, if you plan to succeed in this wonderful sport/hobbie of ours.The respondsiblity of keeping them healthy for racing and breeding is a treasure we should embrace completely, after all we do luv-em.


  72. #80 by jimmy on February 5, 2010 - 9:39 am

    hello my name is jimmy from New York. There is a radio show about racing pigeons once a week on Tuesday nights at a web site called and they have guesta from all over the world. You can also listen to older shows they have done anytime you want. good luck, Jimmy

  73. #81 by ENRIQUE DOCTOR on February 4, 2010 - 2:34 pm


  74. #82 by john glemser on February 3, 2010 - 11:08 am

    Ive been involved for 35 years its hard to be at the top.You get out what you put in this site can put you on top. Knowledge is power.

  75. #83 by john glemser on February 3, 2010 - 11:06 am

    Ive been involved for 35 years its hard to be at the top.You get out what you put in this site can put you on top. Knowledge is

  76. #84 by noli on February 1, 2010 - 10:27 pm


  77. #85 by noli on February 1, 2010 - 10:26 pm

    l ve been involved with this kinda hobby more than 3 years now, and ican rate myself as intermidiate now, it is because of your articles. thank u so much for sending infos and please send me more “knowledge”. you know i want to purchase your books but you know, in the philippines it is hard to earn money, i hope you understand our situation here, but time will tell, maybe someday. thank you so much, more power, and God bless.

  78. #86 by Wesley on February 1, 2010 - 1:07 pm

    I have been involved with pigeons since I was 15 yrs old, now I am thirty. One thing I know you never know everything

  79. #87 by Allen Hall on February 1, 2010 - 11:53 am

    30 years in the sport and still learning but love every minute of it

  80. #88 by erinn on January 30, 2010 - 3:21 am

    Hi chris,I’am truly a beginner…2 yrs in the sport, definitely still in the learning stage..and I’am really learning a lot from this site..keep it up..

  81. #89 by Morne on January 30, 2010 - 2:01 am

    Well i think that if anyone classify themselves as an expert he is becoming a “big head”. Even the best breeders learn everyday something new about our feathered friends.

  82. #90 by Gene F Miller on January 29, 2010 - 2:10 pm

    I have been breeding and racing pigeons for over 48 years and I have won awards at every level including winning at some of the more prestigeous one-loft races accross the U.S.A. I still look at myself as a novice in the sport and keep an open mind for almost anything under discussion. The things that I have found most true in the sport are that one must keep only the best amongst his stock and keep them healthy and in condition, the success will follow.

    As far as keeping the best goes I have also found that there has been very little genetic advancement in the last 50 years in terms of the quality of the stock goes. I have found this out by spending hundreds of thousands of dollars purchasing direct descedents of some of the best proven bloodlines available worldwide only to find they are no better than the best I already had. I still purchase winning stock but probably shouldn’t as it takes energy away from the birds I know can win.

    In the end it isn’t as dfficult to obtain quality stock as it is to maintain a quality program. A flyer can win with less than quality stock if his birds are healthy and in condition but he can’t with the best birds in the world if they are not healthy or in condition. Its that simple.

  83. #91 by FRANK on January 29, 2010 - 5:26 am

    guys there is only one place to start , at the beginning its good to be thier listen to your self not to many persons and do your own research , your competitor will not give you the full puzzle only pieces he wants to beat yoy remember you are flying against him not with him.

  84. #92 by Gerry on January 29, 2010 - 4:16 am

    A beginner, i have been involved in pigeon racing for about a year and a half now. I have been inundated with conflicting advice from other fanciers, this is why i enjoy your articles so much, they are very informative. I am in the process of formulating my own program for my birds and i am using many of your articles to assist me with this. Keep them coming.
    Gerry – JG Lofts – South Africa.

  85. #93 by TATSCRU LOFT on January 28, 2010 - 8:26 pm

    i started this last year 2009 about August, and i must say am at the sport i started this last year 2009 about August, and i must i’m a beigginer at the sport so i’m still learning about it coming cross this site has help me to learn about the sport meeting people that are willing to show and tell a thing or to. now talk about tipplets is another thing i flew those about 13 yrs. some things are the same as far as health and caring of the pigeon. To me flying Tipplets is a relaxing time on a Bronx,ny roof top watching then just clap around the “coop” cause we dont call it a loft, but for homers it a loft, anyways in one side of pigeon game i flew them to catch and make them hit the pins…”intermeida” and in the racing pigeon sport am still in pamper “dipers” so I’m a beginner. TATSCRU LOFT

  86. #94 by Petracek loft on January 28, 2010 - 8:03 pm

    I’ve bean flying for 6 yrs, I’ve read every book including Rotondo. I’m just a little more than a beginner

  87. #95 by MPR on January 28, 2010 - 6:54 pm

    I am an intermediate flyer. I have flown in three YB seasons and one OB season. I am realy looking foward to this years OB’s, as I have a team of 40. They all perfomed well as YB’s. I has 6 on the drop from 401 miles and 23 minutes ahead of the other birds in the club,and I am on the long end. Thanks for all your info. Yours in Sprots, MPR

  88. #96 by David Phillips on January 28, 2010 - 6:38 pm

    At the moment im not even a beginner. Infact I have never ever held a pigeon in my hands, “But I can’t wait”. I recently read a couple of books about racing pigeons and now I got the bug…I have been snowed in for the last month and all I have dreamed about is PIGEONS…The snows gone…Today I started building my loft.

  89. #97 by jim spiece on January 28, 2010 - 3:25 pm

    hi chris,
    first of all i do not have homers, i rise birmingham rollers and nun’s and consider
    my self a back yard pigeon man.i have had pigeons sense i was 9 i am 67a few years.
    i know my birds but don’t blow my own horn. i enjoy reading your articles,but i enjoy
    a cool beer and watch my birds in the back yard.

  90. #98 by feudor on January 28, 2010 - 12:30 pm

    its a good oppurtunity to learned more about to your website..i’m a beginner and its a big help for me to be part of you.. many thanks

  91. #99 by dave on January 28, 2010 - 12:22 pm

    hello chris, the articles are very good should help beginers a lot, i have had birds for eight years won my share of races. There is always more to learn, so keep up the good work

  92. #100 by Andy on January 28, 2010 - 12:09 pm

    DON’T JUDGE A BOOK BY THE COVER…. LOOKS FOOL!!! LOL I think the best way to grade your pigeons is by racing them. I have had birds that looked like a million bucks…. and I couldn’t get anything from or out of them. Than you have your average looking bird clocking consistently and breeding winers. You can’t go wrong by breeding quality to quality.

  93. #101 by tuija on January 28, 2010 - 11:54 am

    Hi, I breed racing pigeons in Finland. I started with 2001. I have 50 racing pigeons. Finland has six pigeon race in the summer. I live on an island in the middle of the Finnish, Jyväskylä, Finland. I have twice won the Finnish title of the fastest loft. I’ve won many times the best old pigeon, and the best set of young pigeons.

  94. #102 by mick03pigeons on January 28, 2010 - 11:40 am

    i would say that i am a advanced fancier but it does not matter how good you are you can always learn,i read on pigeon chat yesterday instead of buying vitamins
    for pigeons mix marmite in the drinking water and or mix baby powder on there food with a little oil ilooked in the supermarket today and i was surprised at the amount of vitamins that was in them.
    i started racing in 1962 and we have done a lot of winning since then i have never added the firsts up i do know we have won over 80 firsts in the last four years
    that is club fed and combine that is why i would say i am advanced but you never stop learning.

  95. #103 by Jerry Hughston on January 28, 2010 - 8:42 am

    Hi Chris,Ihave been racing pigeons 1963,and still a beginner,i won my first race in 1964,a 500 miler,i didn’t win another one till 2009,i won the 300 and 500 last year.talking about staying in there.I did and will stay till i die.I am 62 years old now,and don’t see quiting anytime soon.I have won alot of 2nd. and 3 rd. places in those years. My 100 mile race is 156 and my 500 is 569.It’s had to get a day bird on the 500.

  96. #104 by RON on January 28, 2010 - 6:49 am


  97. #105 by Madhu on January 28, 2010 - 4:36 am

    I grade myself as intermediate, I have been racing pigeons for about 8 years. I love and enjoy pigeon racing.

  98. #106 by Hemant on January 28, 2010 - 2:17 am

    well,i have visited many so called racing pigeon websites… but i found a true racing pigeon website here only…
    i am in pigeons since i was 12 or 13… and in racing pigeons i am for last ten years only…i am 36 now and really interested in breeding and racing great birds…
    we started compiting in racing 3years back and getting good results.. we have won
    5 firsts in 9 races we took part in.
    Last but not least, i am from India. Where this sport is in its infuncy….
    only some rigion its practiced…..
    almost all remainging part is not aware of it..

  99. #107 by Bob Schaefer on January 28, 2010 - 1:33 am

    Thanks for the web sight Chris, i which it covered all bireds as i am a Pigenos fancier not a Homer Junkie like my older brother who is really in to racing Momer’s and he is dame good at it. he actually wins races and or flays in the money from time to time, its a sickness his wife says but so is marrage he tells her and i agree. I am 67 and my father and his father before him had fancy birds and Homers. i had them also a kid growing up and then my life and family got in the way. 4 years ago i got marry again after dating my 2nd wife for over 25 years, we bought as house and at our wedding my older brother let some white Homes go, i told him i got married i didn’t die! i got hooked again and he gave me a few birds and now i have over 60 birds that i love to fly in my yard. i do not need to train my birds, the Birds of Pry do it for me where i live and early on they learn how to quickley out fly and out smart them so that they don’t get eating by them. i started with 4, i now have over 60. do the math. i guess that makes me knowledgeable. my birds have lights, heat and eat real good. my wife wants me to move in to the coup with my dog, my dog told me i am on my own! HA

    Thanks again. my wife told me i should keep pigs, at least we could eat them!

  100. #108 by Jeffrey on January 27, 2010 - 8:58 pm

    Hi.Im from Puerto Rico.Im a begginer.I start with racing pigeons about 7 months ago.I want to compete but i dont have the knowledge to do that.

  101. #109 by charles smith on January 27, 2010 - 7:45 pm

    I am 75 years of age and have had racing pigeons off and on since I was 12 years old. I rate myself as well experienced at racing and breeding. Breeding is my passion and have proven my breeding prowess by winning thousands of first and second place diplomas over the years. I still love to read what others are doing and keep up with the various strains around the world. I especially like your work in keeping the sport alive on the internet. Keep up the good work!

  102. #110 by Natalie Featherstone on January 27, 2010 - 3:14 pm

    Hi, I am a begginer, a very bigginer. I have learnt alot from reading the blogs. I haven’t started racing but would love to. I have some pigeons but they re really mongrels that I have picked up, I really enjoy them and this has started me wanting to get more into the racing sport. Obviously I would get proper birds that can race once have my loft up and running, but it is like trying to pull teeth getting people to help me out with setting up of a loft or to sell me a pair of birds. Any way I will get it right eventually. Thanks for all the info I REALLY enjoy it.

  103. #111 by Mike Tui on January 27, 2010 - 1:17 pm

    I consider my “knowledge” intermediate, but my practice is beginner.
    this year 2010 is my third year since I started Racing. I would just like to say I am really enjoying the birds alot, still learning all that I can, and I still haven’t found the right groove yet. I read alot and I hear alot. But when I sit in the loft with the birds they seem to tell me something else. I don’t like to try or change to different things. I just keep it to the basics. clean loft, quality feed, good ventilation, no overcrowding, weekly bath, lots of sunshine and excersise. I look foward to the coming year.

  104. #112 by sTACY "bubba' wILSON on January 27, 2010 - 12:06 pm

    Once, you think you are at the top you go backwards. As knowledge goes I rate my self high but experience is a continious prosess! No one system works for all, why do you say that, because not all situation is not same. Every thing has to be totally controled just one variable leeds to different results. The ideal situation is where everthing is the same but only in labatory is that close to possiable. Bubba Hawg team Racing

    • #113 by almir on January 27, 2010 - 4:45 pm

      In this sport, I am 6 years, every time I learn something new, afraid of how much it has to do not know. Knowledge is limited, but ignorance is not. Of course I am a beginner. But I look forward to a new day because every day I learn something new.

  105. #114 by Kenny Soulant on January 27, 2010 - 11:48 am

    I’ve been fooling with pigeons on and off for about 30 years with a total of about 15 years active. I know a little about them but I certainly wouldn’t call my self an expert. I could help a beginner and maybe an intermidiate on some things. I’m not sure there is such a thing as an expert in pigeon racing. There are many very strong opinions, but not a lot of proof to go with them. Mostly theory, and yet a lot of very good theory. I believe your articles are very good indeed. I enjoy reading them very much. They are most informative. Please keep them coming, and THANKS for all you do. It’s a big job.

  106. #115 by Mike Valente on January 27, 2010 - 11:40 am

    Hi and Good Morning,
    I really like the information you are providing me in the news letters. I wish I had this type of info when I was starting up in the sport many years ago. This info is helpful in regard to the health of the pigeons giving me the opportunity to be in the winners circle, This will also provide me with the info, so I can stay in the pigeon sport when I’m entering my retirement years. This information, given to me is great for all levels of loft management and experties. I truly believe that this info I’m getting here that all level of mangers should equip themselves with as much knowledge to be armed in the competitive side, stay healthy themselves, and most of all to enjoy the pigeons themselves and to share to other members, the enjoyment the Pigeons have brought to them. I rate myself from 1 to 10, as a 6~7, but a good fancier has lots room to learn and see new horizons. In Your Sport..Mike Valente

  107. #116 by GERRY MARLEY on January 27, 2010 - 11:40 am


  108. #117 by Art2 on January 27, 2010 - 10:38 am

    I’m learning. Every time I think I’m getting the hang of it I run into something new.

  109. #118 by Christos Nicolaou on January 27, 2010 - 9:47 am

    With pigeons I am a beginner, but i am involved proffesionaly with animals for ten year (rabbits and cows). My interest is utility pigeons; i had two utility couples when i was teenager. Your web site is very good, congratulations!

  110. #119 by ANG on January 27, 2010 - 9:45 am

    hi chris
    i have ben flying pigeons for 40 years so i would say i am advance.
    i fly in the toronto canada with very advance flyers.i keep a 60 birds in the winter time and do very well in the racing season.your web side helps.

    yours in pigeon sport

  111. #120 by Fred on January 27, 2010 - 8:25 am

    I’ve been racing pigeons since 1999, but I have had non-racing pigeons on and off since my high school days. I probably would classify myself as between beginner and intermediate, I am still learning about the sport of racing, that why I’m a part of your web site, you never get to old to learn!

  112. #121 by james kelly on January 27, 2010 - 7:41 am

    hi james from ireland great web site a beginner only after building a loft will b racing this season will use some of info from the web site and c how it goes

  113. #122 by PHILIP BODEN on January 27, 2010 - 7:26 am


  114. #123 by Loft 2968 on January 27, 2010 - 3:27 am

    Hi Cris,

    I am defenitely a bigenner. I love and enjoy your website through information of racing pigeons and it helps a lot for me. sir , i have q uestion since this is my second year in competition of our club her in the philippines ( Angeles City Racing Pigeon Club )Pampanga, province of Luzon , Philippines. So far I entered 7 pigeons but for around 150km i lost 5 which i can’t figure it out. Here in our country we only have two season, ( rainy and summer ) now our race is summer season. I gave protien and carbohydrate feeds for my pigeons and during the training i gave them vitaboli and supra pill plus belgasol during training and after is ideal and glucoe wit electrolites but still i lost my pigeons. Is it in the bloodline of my pigeons is something wrong or how i treated my pigeons with all the feeding process or the vitamins? Right now i have new batch of youn birds which have a good bloodline. What and when can gave them vitamins and minerals to ensure they can compete in our next race. Or anyone who can read my message could help me. Thanks a lot and more power to you website.

    I mentioned your website to other member of the club here. This is to help racing pigeons will grow more here and other parts of the world.

    Again , Thank you sir and God Bless

  115. #124 by Julia on January 27, 2010 - 2:24 am

    This is a great place for all kinds of pigeon fancier.

  116. #125 by RehanBhatti on January 27, 2010 - 2:22 am

    a great informative and getting site

  117. #126 by Frederik Swart on January 27, 2010 - 1:19 am


    Thanks for this web , I am in South Africa and we do fly pigeons diffrent from the way you are flying. I think the basics stay the same no matter where you are.I enjoy reading and would like to see thinks about training , pre racing season program.


  118. #127 by vic5716 on January 27, 2010 - 1:03 am

    very good site
    i would say advanced as i had pigeons 45 years but deffinatly still learning
    keep up the good work with the site

  119. #128 by asad ali on January 26, 2010 - 11:54 pm

    hi, i am from india i have 150 pigeons I want to information about feeding .what i give my pigeons in india ? your website gives me a lot of knowledge I can use to get started and take care of the pigeons .Thank you for sharing the information and helping me and others.

  120. #129 by Jaco Haasbroek on January 26, 2010 - 11:44 pm

    I am defenitely a beginner. This is why I enjoy your website, because it gives me a lot of knowledge I can use to get started and take care of the pigeons I have. Thank you for sharing the information and helping others.

  121. #130 by Afaque on January 26, 2010 - 11:16 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Well I would consider myself an intermediate. I have kept pigeons for not a very long time…lets say four years now. I read a lot of websites and yours is a very good one. I am interested in fancy pigeons and have some pouter breeds. From your website I got information about feeding and housing which I adopt and modify a bit according to my needs since I am not into racing pigeons but still a lot of information is quite useful. Thanks for the tremendous work and keep it up!

  122. #131 by (mike) fish farmer on January 26, 2010 - 10:56 pm

    i have raised pigeons since the seventh grade. my brothers had them for years before that. i would say i am between intermediate and advanced if there is such a position i have always raised my birds with as little medication as possible only administering if needed only recently have i started giving different oils and vitamens and the such i was in a club only once and could not race because of my work schedule i have always had to work the weekends when all the racing was done . i am 55 now and am getting more involved with the birds than ever before. i train my birds up to 200 miles but have never raced one race . no pressure just the pure love of the birds.i dont have to prove myself to anyone all my birds are winners. i keep a flock of about 75 in the winter and it grows to about 125 or so in summer only the fastes have a perch for the winter

  123. #132 by GLENN SHIRLEY on January 26, 2010 - 10:30 pm

    oh yes, please do add me to the notice lists.

  124. #133 by GLENN SHIRLEY on January 26, 2010 - 10:28 pm

    i don’t have any idea what i should change? the only thing is my WEBSITE (WHICH IS NOT DEVELOPED YET).so please explain?

  125. #134 by asif on January 26, 2010 - 10:24 pm

    yes ,im enjoying my pigeon is good. they give me good result in the race.ASIF

  126. #135 by GLENN SHIRLEY on January 26, 2010 - 10:17 pm

    well, if you had asked to classify myself as a flyracer, i would have had to say beginner. but you asked about knowledge. i’m no expert but i am very very familiar with every aspect of raising, breeding, feeding, training, keeping, and handling the fasinating critters. i get sycked when i become interested in something and i go all, (ALL), out of the way to learn everything posible to know about that subject. i did this many years ago, at about the age of (I THINK I WAS 9 AT THAT TIME). i became interested in pigeons on a (CLASS TRIP) to the cummunity park, in MEMPHIS, TN. i found a youngster that had fallen from the nest, (OR WAS PROBABLY PUSHED). i spent my (WHOLE) fieldtrip trying to figure out how i was going to get that bird home. one of the park commissioners gave me a shoe box he found in the gym locker room. i carried it back to school in the box, luckily it was in the afternoon, time to leave school. i rushed arround (WITH BOX IN HAND, NEVER LETTING GO FOR ONE SECOND), getting ready to go home. (I MADE IT SAFELY). we lived in an upstairs aprt. i raised (FRED), which we found out latter that HE was a SHE, on rice and chopped corn. my step dad got up every morning at 5:00 and opened the back door to the aprt., (during the summer of course), the door opened right into the kitchen part, and fred would come in and eat rice with my step dad and me. a couple of months went by and a gray bird (with a band) showed up. before we could catch them they both left and never came back. anyway i had already begun to learn all i could about pigeons. that next winter we moved to a subburble area, and i met a man with rollers. i hung arround learning more until one day i bought two pair and he gave me three pair besides the two, so now i had 5 pairs of rollers. i was tickled to death.i continued on and that winter i lost my mother. we moved to MISSISSIPPI. i took my birds (NO DOUBT), and it began a super bond between me and my pigeons. they were all i had now. i became obbsessed, loosing myself in my birds. later i got some homing pigeons, but never raced. i just played arround taking them places and turning them loose to let them fly home. people where i’m from now still go crazy with wonder trying to figure them out. now i’ve decided to get into racing, but my funds are very short at present. my kids are enthused about the idea, and will be loft managers,(AFTER A BIT OF TRAINING).you see i haven’t had birds for quite some time, and my life got sidetracked for another period of time. now i have the time for the birds but a lack of funds. it will take some time but ill get there. so i my be an expert on pigeons but i lack a little in the racing area. i do know a good bit about structure breeding, but i never was scientific enough to know the genetics part. i failed science, LOL!!!! OH!! i’m 44 now, and i have been into pigeons sence i was about 9, so that would be 35 years experience with the beautiful critters. YOURS IN THE SPORT>>>GLENN
    P.S., sorry about the book~~~~~~

  127. #136 by Arjay on January 26, 2010 - 10:04 pm

    I have kept pigeons for 5 years, and still beginner and i enjoy with them..



  128. #137 by Rui on January 26, 2010 - 10:03 pm

    If I had to classify my knowledge of pigeons I would definitely say that I am a beginneras i have only had pigeons for 3 years. I’m constantly on a new learning curve when it comes to my birds and I have to thank you for the wonderful information that you have posted on your website. Without you and the help of other fanciers my knowledge would be limited. I have had a loft grow from a set of 2 pigeons to over fifty and now I’m focusing on breeding for quality birds rather than quantity. Raising pigeons in the heart of Toronto, Canada is a challenge as there are various predators in my area. I have recently joined a racing club and the members have been very welcoming and have assisted me in the proper maintenance of my loft. Without such guidance and mentorship from other fanciers this hobby would fail to exist as I’m currently the youngest member in a group where the mean age of the members are well into retirement. It is up to us all to promote this great hobby that rewards all those who are involved.

  129. #138 by frank on January 26, 2010 - 9:47 pm

    i have had pigeons for 54 years and have raced for 50 years with out a miss.
    as far as how do i grade myself i feel i have a well rounded knowledge of racing pigeons as far as being an expert, i think an expert would be descrbed as a drip under pressure . if you stop listening and reading you stop learning and with the way the game has changed over the 50 years you would soon be out in left field. the biggest challenge today is to keep our birds healthy. the last 10 -15 years it seems there are more problems with sick birds . i beleave this to be caused b y over use of drugs and pigeon products. the sport is always looking for a quick fix to get to the top and they all feel it comes from a bag or bottle, where in fact it comes from good healthy birds and hard work


  130. #139 by carlos on January 26, 2010 - 9:43 pm

    I have kept pigeons for 37 years,still enjoy
    great website!

  131. #140 by Emad Ghaly on January 26, 2010 - 9:41 pm

    Thank you very much for this information.It really help.I consider my self an
    advanced.I been in among pigeons for 40 years.

  132. #141 by jun victoria on January 26, 2010 - 9:08 pm

    thanks for all the infos you are sending, it really helps me a lot in breeding my birds.

    more power!!!

  133. #142 by Rob on January 26, 2010 - 9:02 pm


    Live in Lower Hutt City New Zealand. I have kept racing pigeons for 27 years. Enjoyed the high and lows that this great sport brings us. Due to “Pigeon Fancier Lung” I had to reduce the number of pigeons I was able to keep making me a very small operator. I have a no more than 35 birds at any one time but still enjoy a lot of success against far larger teams. Iam a keen eye sign enthusiast and grade pigeons regularly for other fanciers.

    • #143 by peter dempsey on January 27, 2010 - 5:43 pm

      hi Rob I to suffer from PFL and
      I am also keen on the eyesign
      cant say that I would be able to grade
      others birds but I know what I like

  134. #144 by dave on January 26, 2010 - 8:58 pm

    a beginner with some knowledge

  135. #145 by Ed on January 26, 2010 - 8:36 pm

    This is a GREAT website!!

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