Pigeon Breeding – Correct Line Breeding, Fixing Champion Blood


Pigeon Breeding – Correct Line Breeding, Fixing Champion Blood

Pigeon Breeding - Correct Line Breeding, Fixing Champion BloodThe young fancier and perhaps the old fancier, too, may desire a little knowledge upon the important subject of pigeon breeding, in particular line breeding, or, in any case, a system by means of which they can establish a line of speedy birds, likely to win in the best of company. There is no need to have a loft of fifty birds, to win classic events, in these days of specialization. By specialization, I mean the concentrating upon a certain strain.

Most fanciers have, within their lofts, a bird that has performed exceptionally well during the racing season; a bird which has been bred from a pair of birds within the loft. Here then, are the necessary materials for the building up of a strain.

If the pride of our pigeon breeding loft is a cock bird, then, the following season he must be mated to his dam; and if there is a hen, she must be mated to the sire. This is termed ‘reciprocal mating’, at least, I call it such. The youngsters off both these matings are carefully ringed, checked into the pedigree book. Without careful noticing, the success of the system is futile.

The hens of the sire, we will term, 3A, and the cocks off the dam, 3B. The sire is numbers 1, and the dam numbered 2. No. 1 is mated to a 3a hen, and 3b cock to number 2. The young birds are carefully trained and raced, and it is just possible that the youngsters off the sire, may be better than those off the dam. It may be the other way about, and the young off the dam may be the better. This is a possible method of checking whether the sire or dam was the producer of the champion. If the inheritance of the champion bird came from the dam, then we have intensified the possibilities of speed, by mater her champion son to herself.

The progeny of 1x3a will be marked 13a in the stud book, and the progeny of the 1x3b mating will be 13b. Now the fancier may mate a hen off 1x3b, back to No.1 and 2 is naturally half the blood of the dam, and, according to the generally accepted theory of Mendelian laws, governing pigeon breeding, the son only takes after the dam, in proportion of one twenty-fifth of her blood. If this be so (and personally I have up to the present accepted the theory) then the son is only one twenty-fifth part related to the dam, so that it is not close inbreeding.

That being so, the daughter of the son and dam, which is mated back to No. 1, is a grand-daughter, and contains only one-fiftieth part of the grandsire’s blood. To mate these two birds, again, is not close inbreeding and, in the same ratio, to mate the inbred grandson back to the granddam is only mating back one fiftieth of her blood.

It may be, that both the male and female lines will fly and perform exceedingly well; or it may be that one line only shows the greater percentage of winners.

When a champion bird appears in a loft, that is somewhat unrelated, I am a great believer in the theory that it is a case of reversion to a champion ancestor. In either case the sire or dam’s side, and by reciprocal mating, we can trace or chase the elusive quality, much better than by outcrossing. It may be said that we are breeding a line of weak birds, but this has long ago be disproved.

A system as above may be continued for many generations, and, after the third season, the young or the sire’s side may be mated with the young of the dam’s side, and a cock and hen picked, for again mating back to the No. 1 cock and No. 2 hen. It is a system of line breeding similar to that known as the Felch’s system, but, I would not care to go to the extreme length or going beyond five seasons, at which date I would introduce a specially selected hen of the same strain, but far distantly removed.

Why a new hen? Because experienced fanciers know that a new cock bird can mate with several hens without our knowledge, but the new hen can only mate with the one cock bird. Some cock birds are not at all faithful to their hens, and will court any hen in the loft that may be amorously inclined.

I once say this happen, when a red chequer pied cock bird mated to a blue chequer hen, through the hen was really mated to a chequer cock for several seasons. The progeny turned our red chequer pieds, and but for the observation, I would have pedigreed them as off the hen’s real mate, the chequer.

The birds that show any tendency to weekness in physique, provided they are raced, will soon be eliminated from the loft. In well know lofts that have already adopted this system of breeding, the percentage of weaker typed birds are not greater than under the ordinary system of outcross pigeon breeding.

Speed, and more speed, is necessary these days, when fanciers are concentrating upon a few selected birds, and giving them intensive, carefully thought out training and racing. Haphazard selection of a dozen or fifteen birds from the loft of possibly sixty and seventy birds, is putting the fancier on the plane of a novice just starting with a few well bred birds. I could name one prominent English fancier, who races not more than six birds in the chief races, against wealthy fanciers who send as many as twenty birds, and the fanciers with six birds wins a greater percentage of races, because he knows his pedigrees and performances and is in closer contact with the individualities of each bird. And we fanciers know the each bird is as different as two human beings in character and mannerisms.

By pigeon breeding on the system outlined above, a fancier has a perfect right, within a few years to claim his name to the strain, because it is a more or less recognized principle that it takes four seasons to form some distinctive characteristic in bird or animal bred on a system of linebreeding.

Editors Note: These articles have been reproduced with the permission of “The Gazette”, a publication of the South Australian Homing Pigeon Association Inc. The articles were originally supplied by Mr. John Pryor from his late father Keith’s scrap book on Pigeons.

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  1. #1 by Terry on February 9, 2011 - 1:42 pm

    Hi guys I’ve read most comments, I have got to say it’s very similar to the road I’m going down,but I’ve got to agree with Tom,reading the first couple paragraphs got a bit confusing, but I suppose it give’s some fanciers somthing to think about.

  2. #2 by shannon nelson on February 6, 2011 - 11:04 pm

    this is a good article with very good info . I can see how those that are not familiar with this correct method of breeding would have a hard time understanding . But this is the method used in all animal sports and animal worlds . This method is used because it produces champions or it lets you know that you need to go to another line .
    Of course there’s is much more individual work & feeding that must be taken care of for ones birds to shine !!!

  3. #3 by winchelle.cruz@yahoo.com on February 3, 2011 - 6:24 pm

    I never thought about this….It’s very interesting I would like to try this system and soon it will be realized. Thanks for this wonderful article. Maybe this is my time to shine in our club if I would be successful in trying this method of breeding. Again, thanks for everything….

  4. #4 by Alister murray on January 27, 2011 - 7:30 pm

    Wow,I didn’t realise inbreeding this closely was a generally accepted,or universal way of breeding.I personally prefer not to mate father to daughter,mother to son,brother to sister.Instead mating granddaughter to grandsire,grandson to granddam,half brother to half sister,etc.I have found breeding to closely produces inferior quality.But thanks for the article,interesting.

  5. #5 by KURT THE MALTESER on January 3, 2011 - 12:27 pm

    SO IF YOU MATE THE DOUTHER WITH HER FATHER IT IS GOOD TO RACE ??

    THANKS FOR EVERY THING

  6. #6 by AROCK 7DS on January 2, 2011 - 2:05 am

    x article helping on my breeding seoson info is great thanks just got a pair of jens as a persent from my bro in new york very happy love you bro

  7. #7 by Jaco Venter on December 10, 2010 - 11:15 pm

    Interesting but to me line breeding and in breeding is one and the same. Thanks for the article it made of some good reading

  8. #8 by Ronny Henderson on December 9, 2010 - 8:58 pm

    It was a bit confusing,and I read it twice and didn’t really understand it.I think the writer knew what he was doing,but just didn’t get it down on paper correctly.

  9. #9 by squeak on November 26, 2010 - 10:50 pm

    squeak :Personaly I was thrilled when I recieved and read the titled article in my mail box. For one I thought the timing of the print was on the hour. Needless to say breeding is nearly upon us. More to the point I am at present forced to deal with a close breeding issue not with sprinters as the above example gives but with a long distance strain which I refer to as my sports family. Wether or not the author has made the read complicated. I am grateful for any info on this subject at this present time and the very fact that the web master has choosen to post tells me that here is a site thats on the ball and attempting to produce and deliver the required goods. We dont always get it right first time but hats off for trying.

    I would of liked too have shared my dilema with you as am sure they are many experinced breeders among you and I sincerely believe that you could of put me on the best route to take but am not sure wether or not this is the appropiate page to start such a request. If not than perhaps I have opened the doors to the possibllity of such a page or should I say the article has brought about. Dear knows like the auther I could be wrong.

  10. #10 by squeak on November 26, 2010 - 10:22 pm

    Personaly I was thrilled when I recieved and read the titled article in my mail box. For one I thought the timing of the print was on the hour. Needless to say breeding is nearly upon us. More to the point I am at present forced to deal with a close breeding issue not with sprinters as the above example gives but with a long distance strain which I refer to as my sports family. Wether or not the author has made the read complicated. I am grateful for any info on this subject at this present time and the very fact that the web master has choosen to post tells me that here is a site thats on the ball and attempting to produce and deliver the required goods. We dont always get it right first time but hats off for trying.

  11. #11 by Joe Walsh Dublin Ireland on November 25, 2010 - 6:03 am

    A very interesting article, but does the 1 and 2 have to be related,

  12. #12 by allan on November 10, 2010 - 3:03 am

    hi,thanks for sharing that your best opinion i honored that.. i finish to read your articles because thas my hobby to read more and learn the way of rigth pigeon feeding and line breed or blood line!thanks and more power.

  13. #13 by berni on July 26, 2010 - 11:32 pm

    I did not finish reading this article for it is “not good writings”. It is boring to read, with due respect to the writer. Unsolicited advice, if you want to share your knowledge kindly make it simple and easier to understand. I think to write this article in a better way is that to make outline or chart of the hens and cocks. Anyway thanks for the effort in writing the article.

  14. #14 by spiderman on April 29, 2010 - 2:06 am

    I’m same comment with Bill.

  15. #15 by Eddie West on April 25, 2010 - 7:31 am

    I thought it was just me \that did not understand. Wow what a mess of explaining in this article.

  16. #16 by Nick Demas on April 10, 2010 - 6:16 am

    I agree with Tom Barnhart that this article is more confusing than it had to be.No offense,it sounds like the author knows what he’s talking about but writes in a way that is very difficult to follow. I found myself rereading the article several times before it took hold.

    thanks fo reading, Nick

  17. #17 by ARTEM MELIKIAN on April 7, 2010 - 2:47 am

    CORRECT

  18. #18 by Don on March 26, 2010 - 2:24 pm

    What you are describing is inbreeding. I breed this way a lot my self,but I don’t go past three generations. After three generations I get more bad birds than good birds.So I add some new blood and start again. This is what works best for me.

  19. #19 by Bill on March 16, 2010 - 5:17 am

    I found the artical very interesting, I also found the comments on this artical of great interest as well.

  20. #20 by Rolando on February 28, 2010 - 2:57 am

    Line breeding is a moderate form of inbreeding as from other articles written on breeding. You line breed them from the father/mother to daugther/son or grand daughters/sons or further down to reduce the inbreeding depression which is more prominent from brother-sister breeding. As using the line for years you need to infuse other new blood (not related for many generations)in order to have hybrid vigor.

    • #21 by John Narciso on April 30, 2010 - 9:55 am

      That’s true Rolando. In dogs we call it “outcrossing”. You take the (your) linebred animal and bring a non-related line into yours, then if the outcome is good, or what you were hoping for, go back to your “line breeding” with that new blood introduced. I beleive you must outcross to keep , as you say, “vigor” in your line..
      (I just read this in april, so that is why my reply/comment is late)
      Cheers.
      John

  21. #22 by tenmon on February 17, 2010 - 11:28 am

    Sorry John, but what you are describing is INBREEDING, not LINEBREEDING. If you want to see good line breeding, look at Gaby’s breedin technique. He follows in line of his main birds, but bring back birds that are performance but are related to his birds. What I would like to see is just not the technique of putting birds back to their relatives, but how to complement the breeding pairs, such as eyes, body structure, muscles, etc. All as a package and not just bring daughters or sons back to their parents.

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  23. #24 by john glemser on January 15, 2010 - 11:44 am

    What I get from the article is similar to what I do. I take the sire and dam from my #1 pair, and if I get a good racer off that pair I will mate the children back son to mother and daughter to father. Race those babies and pick the best one , whether its a cock or a hen and mate that bird back to its parent. The youngsters from those babies, I again pick the best ones for a stock bird to mate back to and uncle or aunt or to the # 1 pair

  24. #25 by PigeonRacingFan on January 2, 2010 - 12:44 pm

    Hey Tom,

    Great insight thanks so much for posting your comments I will try to contact the author of the article and try to get it cleared up. This is why I love working on this blog so much your honest opinions is what keeps the information so valuable. Thanks again,

    -Chris

  25. #26 by Tom Barnhart on January 2, 2010 - 12:20 pm

    My apologies to the supplier of this article, but IMHO, it is not a very good article. It is very poorly written. For example, it is not at all clear what the writer means in the 4th paragraph by “sire” and “dam”. Are these the sire and dam of the “pride of our loft” or is the “pride of our loft” (paragraph 3) the “sire” he is talking about? Also, sire and dam of whom? If he is referring to a particular pair, then the sons of the dam and the daughters of the sire are simply the progeny of the pair. I also question where the “one twenty-fifth” portion is coming from; it certainly does not follow from “the generally accepted theory of Mendelian laws”. The whole theory of line breeding is to “concentrate” the genes of the champion; sometimes it works and sometimes it does not.

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