What Do You Think is The Current State of Pigeon Racing?


This weeks discussion of the week is…

What do you think the current state of pigeon racing is?

For example do you think pigeon racing is growing or dying, express your views and share with others your opinions on the current state of pigeon racing by posting a comment in the box below.

  1. #1 by Kojak on April 4, 2011 - 10:29 pm

    Chris i have been searching for quite some time for a website like this. You are a definitely the pigeon GURU. Thank you very much for making it possible to catch up on everything i have been missing. i used to clean coops just to be close to the pigeons i was unable to have my own. There are truly some wonderful folks in this pigeon life. I do not have a coop yet but I continue to take my son to the pigeon pet shop and we enjoy ourselves. The minute I can put a coop up it is going up. And I know my son is going to love. For the love of the pigeons. I hope that this pigeon flying does not fade away. With website like this fat chance. keep up the good work.


    Hopfully I can be flying and racing soon.

    P.S. I would like to see pigeon pics on your site. There is nothing better to see some nice health pigeons.

  2. #2 by Faith on March 25, 2011 - 8:54 pm

    Well Chris, although I have heard the hobby of pigeon keeping, raising and racing is growing in certain areas of the world, I am sad to say that it appears to be a slowly dying sport where I am. Although some of the older fanciers still hold on to this ancient art, bickering between them and other fanciers has caused a stagnant lull in the pigeon community, and the competition of new electronics such as cellphones and video games leaves hardly any younger people who are even remotely interested in this particular field to pick up where the older ones left off. Also, pigeon keeping and racing takes a considerable amount of time which many people are not willing to give, and the price of pigeon products is on a steady increase.

    I am hoping that more younger people will be inspired to take an interest in the sport, for if they don’t, then how willl this wonderful hobby atay alive through the ages and new technology?

    I will continue to fly my birds with enthusiasm for the sport and its followers. Good luck to all pigeon enthusiasts!

  3. #3 by Richard Palmer on March 20, 2011 - 3:03 pm

    Let me start by saying that I am about to set up a loft. I had birds from my early teens until I went into the U.S. Army in 1973. Back then my step-father sectioned off 4ft. and the length of his new garage. He cut a piece of it’s siding, hinged it so that it could open and close. And that was my “coop”. Never in all that time did I have sick birds or any of the dozen of problems that I’m reading about on the Internet. I never lost any birds. In fact I picked up a couple that would not leave and was given some really nice babies from them.

    Secondly, if you bother to read about the sport and about some of the great breeders, you will discover that not a single one of them started with birds that cost the equivalent of 500 to 1K or even 5K USD. And forget the winning bird in the current BIG MONEY races. Everyone started with birds from a mentor. And back in my time, mine were a gift. (Long story. I wanted to learn taxidermy)

    Today’s races … $150.00 perch fee… $300.00 entry fee… etc. etc.. And then there is the actual value of the bird that you may be kissing good buy as you kiss if for luck. What kid can enter such a world? Not many adults can either.

    So as I see it things need to be made simpler. Mentors are needed. And the lofts that are buying and selling pedigrees need to spend a percentage of their revenue on legislation that will allow the sport to continue. It is in their best interest to do so.

    Is the sport of pigeon racing dying? Perhaps only where a lot of us got started and the way we got started.

  4. #4 by Terry Williams on March 1, 2011 - 4:35 pm

    Sorry to say but it is struggling to get bigger due to expense and the kids have other sit down things to do, excitment is what they need to bring it back, unions taking to much out and not putting in is one problem, big sales of pigeons all over are not good and the prices paid are silly it is like any sport money is the route is all good or bad , but some one has to go to far and ruin it, pigeons is a type of relaxe and should still be , but we are adding and adding bits and pieces to make them better !!!!. back to basics is needed, but let there be different types of the sport and let the people vote with there feet. keep pigeon racing a simple sport but excite it more

  5. #5 by Fazil on March 1, 2011 - 1:14 pm

    here in South Africa the sport is dying as there is too much politics in the sport and unfortunately not enough young people entering. when we do have new members there is no or limited support from the more experienced fanciers and after about 2 years the new fancier then packs it up. There is a project that has taken pigeon racing to schools to try and promote the sport however i dont have any feedback whether this has been successful or not, i really think a project like this could take off given time.

    i would love to see a UNITED SOUTH AFRICA when it comes our beloved sport as we need to look out for the best interest of the pigeons and the sport as a whole.

  6. #6 by Jeff Price on February 27, 2011 - 1:08 pm

    Someone mentioned there should be a mentoring program. We have had rare breeds for a while and have just bought several groups of homing pigeons and would be interested in finding a mentor or two. We do plan on joining the Dixie Racing Club and will be doing our first training of our homers this year.

    My 4 year old son has some interest in pigeons and we hope to get him fully involved this year with his own birds.

    Anyone interested in mentoring please email me at jp67jkhf@yahoo.com.


  7. #7 by Mark on February 25, 2011 - 2:32 am

    Hi Chris,

    In the Philippines, pigeon racing have been growing, though in a slower rate due to modernization, but nonetheless growing.


  8. #8 by desiree on February 20, 2011 - 9:44 pm

    hey chris,
    pigeon racing here in the Philippines is blooming. Lots of new clubs are born. But sad to say some clubs are not really fanciers they are only after the profit. So guys be very careful in joining the clubs.Happy flying!!! and Mabuhay!!!

  9. #9 by ric michael on February 14, 2011 - 1:38 am

    Pigeon racing in philippines are keep on growing from past seven yrs. More club are born in every city and race are more competitive.

  10. #10 by lazar N name on February 12, 2011 - 5:11 am

    j think the pigeon racing is the best racing in the hool world special in SERBIA THANKS

  11. #11 by Chad on February 7, 2011 - 4:30 pm

    It looks to me like the future in the USA will be in one loft races. Though the sport definately seems to be receding in this country along with anything else that resembles ag/rural related activity (excepting commercial ag).

    On the other hand, it sounds like the developing countries aroung the world are taking the sport by storm (The far east, Mexico, Phillipines, etc…)

    I think kids living in these places resemble our American kids of “yester year” (they play outside, they’re poor enough not to afford the games and such, and they’re not too “special” to get hands dirty, etc…).

    I have 4 kids, 3 of them are showing a great interest in the birds. That is where we need to start. Afterall, how can you manage a race team without first having the “breeders” making “squabs”.

    The AU, IF, and individual flyers need to create a mentoring program…fast!

    I started my kids my letting them put message capsules on the birds (BIG hit)!!

    2 cents,

  12. #12 by Tony Fasano on February 4, 2011 - 9:47 am

    I’m sorry to say but I think it’s dying ( New York )clubs are going belly up.and also I contribute it to the fact that pigeons are considered filthy vermin.
    People do not have a clue how our birds are treated and how clean they are kept.
    The other problem is that it is almost treated as a “Secret” sport that are for the ones in the know only, there is no promotion for the public to become aware.
    I’m a new flyer and I got to tell you it took me a while before a found someone who took me under his wing and educated me to what has to be done to suceed in this game. There are too many closed mouth people in this sport.

    • #13 by PigeonRacingFan on February 4, 2011 - 11:37 am

      I would like to add something to Tony’s comment, I totally agree when he says “there are too many closed mouth people in this sport”. I’m not going to name names but I have personally asked fanciers if I could post there articles on this site to help educate all of our members. I was actually told no because it would in their words “hurt their business”. But that’s just my two cents.

      Thanks all 🙂
      Yours in the sport,

  13. #14 by terry on January 28, 2011 - 5:19 am

    its getting to be a rich man sport it cost more and more every year so for this reason i thank its dying.

  14. #15 by Ed on January 18, 2011 - 6:36 pm

    I don’t think the sport will ever really die, but it is changing I was on a sabattical for 15 years and recently flew my first young bird series since that time the club members have gotten older but not nessarsally wiser and yes there are fewer of them but all you have to do is look a the # of one loft races and futurities ,not to mention the activity on the online auctions to see that there is still a strong interest in the sport perhaps it’s becoming a more Global competition.

  15. #16 by gavin on January 17, 2011 - 10:22 am

    Yep I do think it is dying cause of a number of reasons, In South Africa it has become very expensive as in the rest of the world i am sure but the mentality also has to have a drastic shift. Most fanciers here get caught up in a web of having to keep too many birds to compete effectively. They think that the more you have the better chance you have of doing well. The result of keeping too many are many negatives like overcrowding etc. We tend to chase points only and forget about thinking clearly about the birds themselves.Also the young folk today have a huge amount of other activities out there and dont want to be tied down much. W

  16. #17 by David on January 17, 2011 - 12:36 am

    There’s no doubt about it. It is dying. Feather merchants, mob flyers, and authors giving bad advice are killing it!

  17. #18 by Paul on January 11, 2011 - 7:21 pm

    I think the sport in my area is barely holding its own ( Southwest Missouri ). Its very hard to get younger individuals interested in Pigeons when we’re competing with electronic games. It seems the younger individuals who do get involved are young family men.

  18. #19 by Arnold DC Francisco on January 7, 2011 - 8:34 pm

    Hi Chris,

    In my country, The Philippines, its a growing industry. There’s a club in every nook and corner sprouting everytime. But’s its a pity that a new comer in pigeon racing is being exploited by some scrupolous individuals for profit.

    The real problem lies on an individual, who will venture into the sport, without the sufficient knowledge to know what right or wrong. many new fanciers relies to much on the pedigree of the pigeons, ignoring the performance. They will discuss the line of the pigeon without giving thought if the line they’re talking about is really performing in my country.

    Anyway, its for them to finally find they’re follies.


  19. #20 by Chris Ducote on January 6, 2011 - 1:32 am

    Hello Chris

    I know that the sport has declined in my area. My grandfather belonged to a club in the 80s and early 90s and there were several other clubs all around, and now they are almost non existant. I am just getting into pigeons for myself and my children. I hope that they can enjoy it as much as i did when i was young. I also think that by the way my grandfather is talking and due to the fact that I am getting pigeons that he is going to take the hobby back up as well. Thank you for all the usefull information you are providing.

  20. #21 by Larry Paulus on December 28, 2010 - 9:33 pm

    Hi Chris

    I believe the sport in South Africa is dying.To get quality birds are too expensive.Young poeple are not interested in the sport because it’s alot of money in the sport.Transport is getting more expensive every year.Medicines is also too expensive.

  21. #22 by Stan Holloway on December 20, 2010 - 8:50 pm

    I have a WWI Army Corps of Engineers Field Manual that belonged to my grandfather…it goes into illustrated detail about how to load a pack mule with ammunition for transport, about things like digging trenches and pitching a pup tent, about how to adjust the sights on a faulty rifle by “striking the barrel sharply against a log” until the proper tragetory is attained. Damn ain’t things changed? The same goes for pigeon racing unfortunately…not many kids today want to get away from the computers and smart phones long enough to get outside for even a few minutes for a breath of fresh air much less invest the time required to house, feed and train birds. Then there’s the intial cost of getting started. As we’ve progressed, I think that many of us have over-complicated the sport as we’ve progressed…strict racing diets, expensive medications, membership fees, dues, etc.
    Whenever I meet a youngster who expresses even a remote interest in my birds, I tell them about how before we had instantaneous world wide communication, the military attached messeges to the leg of one of these birds and that the bird would sometimes fly for hundreds of miles thru enemy territory while soilders armed with shotguns would fire away trying to bring the bird down and how both sides also trained falcons to bring the pigeon down to prevent delivery of the message. If the kids come back, I ask if they would like to learn more about the birds and if they do and seem genuinely interested, I make them a deal. I’ll help to build their first loft and give them a proven mated pair of birds and teach them how to train them…I get two of the offspring the following year and tell them that if they lose interest in the birds to simply bring them back. It’s working really well so far and the expression on the faces of these kids when we toss their first birds has really enriched the quality of life for this old fart…and their expressions when the birds come home is as the commercial says “priceless”. I’m simply trying to give back some of the facination and intrique that my birds have given me over the years. I have a young group thats talking of forming their own club this year and I hope that they follow my lead and do it for the love of the birds and what they do and give. No fees, no dues, just do it for the love of the sport.

  22. #23 by Imran on December 9, 2010 - 3:06 am

    Hey Chris,

    I enjoyed a lot with your help through online about my hobby that is pigeon,its my childhood hobby.Currently pigeons sport’s growing slowly due high priced in the bussiness market.its a great oppurtunity to have contact like you in this current sitution.Becuase people are getting right path about their hobbies.


  23. #24 by AROCK 7DS on November 30, 2010 - 7:45 pm

    thank you very much alister will help alot the imfor is great thanks new in the sport

  24. #25 by Alister murray on November 30, 2010 - 5:02 am

    To Arock 7DS,sorry to hear the bad new’s about your young birds.There are many reasons why the young one’s could be dying.It’s not a simple matter of what you can give your birds to stop them dying.First you have to find out what is causing the problem before you can treat them.What is the health statis of your stock birds.Have you introduced any new birds to your loft.Do you have your stock birds separated from your race birds.How did your racing season go? Any health problems.As far as your stock birds are concerned, make sure all the basic’s have been covered.Clean disinfected nest box,with new clean nesting material.The birds have access to plenty of clean,fresh water.Plenty of fresh food available daily,also grit,pick stone,calcium cake,mineral powder.The feeding stock birds need and must have these basic materials or they will soon become run down and vulnerable to disease.Check for red mite infestation.These can move onto the birds at night and drive the birds off their nests.Look for the tell tail signs “pin pricks” under the babies wings where they have attached to feed during the night.If mites are a problem the whole loft needs to be sprayed with Permethrin solution 10Mls to 1Ltr of water.Also all the birds will need to be dipped in this solution but add some soap flakes to the solution to act as a wetting agent.It would also be wise to treat for worms at the same time.Moxidectin 5Mls to 1Ltr of water for 24hrs, and it will also help to kill any mites,or lice.There are also more serious reasons why youngsters may be sick or dying.Diseases such as salmonella,Fungal air sack,Circovirus,and herpes virus.There are many other problems that can cause disease in young ones.If your stock birds are stressed for any reason they could start to shed large numbers of Chlamydia,which is a micro-organism that is found within the system of many pigeons all the time.During breeding a time of stress,the birds will shed the organisms in their droppings,saliva,and eggs.If in the egg,The developing embryo is weakened and can die during incubation,or during the hatching process.The nestling can die or be a retarded youngster.It is too late to treat the stock birds once paired but for future reference Chlamydia is treated with Doxycycline 12%.The main problem encountered by many fanciers in the breeding season is Canker.Again if the birds get stressed,which can be due to,Loft design,nest box design,poor management practices,incorrect feeding,and other concurrent diseases.The feeding stock birds can shed large numbers of trichomonades which can in turn lead to clinical diseases in the babies.Usually the baby pigeon develops an internal canker nodule at the base of the crop or within the glandular stomach.As the nodule increases in size it squashes the windpipe making breathing difficult,and locks the crop outlet.Deaths often occur due to the nodule growing through the stomach wall,causing contents to leak into the chest and causing infection,or the nodule could damage the heart or large blood vesselsin the chest leading to sudden and severe bleeding causing death.I hope some of this helps in finding what is going on in your loft.If unsure it would be best to take a couple of stock birds to the vet for testing or send a couple of the dead babies for autopsy.Maybe expensive but at least you would get the correct diagnosis.Good luck and best wishes.

  25. #26 by whamie on November 26, 2010 - 5:18 pm

    I really think that there needs to be more promtion by the sanctions. In the US the AU and the IF. There seems to be no control over the sport. Anybody can put on One Lofts or Futurity races if they have the cash to set it up.

    The AU needs to start getting 4 H groups and kids all over interested. A small coop/loft to hold 5-10 pigeons is all a kid needs to learn to take care of the birds and work them.

    Maybe have an age group limit. Kids say from 8-17 and keep the entry very low. There are far too many bad sportsmen in every sport.

    My sons played softball when they were young, it was discusting to watch some parents… they yelled at their kids, they yelled at the coaches, they yelled at the refs…I would have kicked their asses off the field if I was in charge!

  26. #27 by deon on November 26, 2010 - 2:44 pm

    Hi Chris, In SA the sport are not so strong than 25 years ago when i started.The problem are not the cost of the sport. I found more people leave the sport due to bad people in the clubs that cant take a hiding , lets call it the bad sportman. If we set the right example for the youngsters and provide them with true pigeon love, they will get interisted

  27. #28 by AROCK 7DS on November 25, 2010 - 11:17 pm

    thanks lee and whamie big help live in orlando fl starting fast on it thank yous so much i have to much money in the sport new guy but old head always love the sport from new york had mix birds but now trying to race someday with help welcome for help carlosarock7ds83@ymail.com

  28. #29 by whamie on November 25, 2010 - 8:42 pm

    You can breed birds any time of the year. It all has to do with light hours. If they are 12 hours of light they will breed. Birds in the wild breed all year round.

    Dying in the nest can be caused by a number of factors. I have young right now that are growing like rockets. High protein and I make my own pecking blocks to supplement the adults. Were your birds vaccinated in late summer? Do not give antibiotics to parents while setting or after the hatch.

    It is wise to use tobacco stem to avoid parasites. I have a electric leaf mulcher I chop the tobacco stalk and fresh straw together.

    No drafts. I know of people who use 12×12 cardboard boxes with alot of straw in them and never loose a bird.

    I would say go back and look at your sanitation, light/hrs., mineral grit, hi protein feed, and bedding.

  29. #30 by Lee Fessenden on November 25, 2010 - 8:08 pm

    This is to the fellow that commented that his birds are starting to breed but are being lost at a couple of weeks of age.
    I am sorry to hear that your loosing youngsters but it is the wrong time of the year to be breeding birds at all. You should have your hens seperated from your cocks by late September to mid October and unless you have a heated loft or live in an area that is warm enough for the young not to get to cold at night then you wouldn’t start back till march, but if your weather is good then you can start them back by pairing as early as December so that the youngsters hatch out in Janruary.
    There is another thing that takes place too and that is changing them over to a feed mix that is high in proteen and supply plenty of grit so that the adult birds can digest thier food properly and the young can too. Hope this helps you out.
    God Bless You & Yours
    Yours in the Sport

  30. #31 by AROCK 7DS on November 25, 2010 - 7:34 pm


  31. #32 by whamie on November 23, 2010 - 8:02 pm

    Another problem as I see it is standardizing clocks. There needs to be a “standard” of calibration and let eveyone use their clocks but must be certified and sealed to use.

    Seems like every club uses a different brand, buy their brand or you can’t race… There are far too many “chiefs” and not enough indians. Promotion and getting interest is the key to getting new people involved. They don’t need mega lots, just a few birds in their back yard… quality…not quantity…

  32. #33 by Lee Fessenden on November 23, 2010 - 10:51 am

    I see gewer and fewer one loft races that the young flyer can afford to enter. I also have not seen a one loft white or grizzel bird race for over three yrs now. I decided to host one after not finding any online and got very minor response to it and only about ten birds entered so This is another problem is the loss of interest in the sport. It is like anything else we need to promote it towards the young through 4H or some other program or it is going to continue to decline.

  33. #34 by eduardo salazar on November 19, 2010 - 3:24 pm

    pigeon racing is always be there and its not gonna be there at all times,im a fanciers also,but now im here in dubai,maybe when the times come im going back to philippines i will start again to keeping pigeon,here in dubai i have some also but there no race here like in MANILA,like a short distance race.theres no 150km/to 200km race here.but for me RACING PIGEON IS STILL THE BEST.There is the excitement.TANX AND MORE POWER TO PIGEON LOVER.

  34. #35 by Alister murray on November 18, 2010 - 7:12 am

    Hi Chris, Thanks for the invitation to join in with my fellow pigeon racing enthusiasts with this fantastic web site.One can never have too much information,especially as the sport progress towards professionalism.You either keep up with the advances in the way we look after our birds or get lost and left behind.I choose to keep up and seek out as much “info” as I can to help me keep my birds competitive.Is the sport growing or dying? Well I can only say that in my country “NZ” it is definitely dying.The fanciers here are mainly older fanciers having been in the sport for many years.There aren’t many younger people joining up or even interested.If you try to talk about pigeon racing, most people don’t even know you can race pigeons.I remember,I was telling a work mate about racing pigeons and to my amazement he said,what kind of track do they race on.I knew I had an uphill battle to convince people it is a serious sport.I would also like to comment if I may,on the subject of medication and how we are treating our birds.I read far too often and hear how people give their birds medicine for “this and that” as part of a routine management program.Please don’t get me wrong,if a bird is sick and in need of treatment by all means,give it what it needs to get it well again,but I don’t agree with all this “Willy Nilly” treatment programs,giving the birds Drugs their systems just don’t need.You may get the results you want in the short term,but if you want to keep your birds well in the long term,especially if you want that bird for stock,nothing will compare to a strong natural immune system,and you won’t achieve this if you continually drug your birds.All you are achieving is creating a vulnerability to disease by weakening the birds natural defence system.Also in the process allowing disease to become immune to the drugs it is constantly absorbing.Personally I won’t give my birds any treatment apart from worming and giving probiotics regularly,unless the bird is ill and I have a positive result from a proper test.I don’t guess.I have a microscope and check the birds droppings periodically.I also crop flush my birds and only give canker treatment when Trichomonads are being shed to excess.I don’t understand fanciers who say they treat their birds for canker before they breed from their birds.Treatment will stop the stock birds from shedding Trichomonads in the process interupting the exposure the growing youngster should be getting to build a strong Natural immunity to canker.Drugs are fine if you know how to use them to help your birds,but very dangerous if you don’t really know what you are doing.Understand the illness you are trying to treat.Get a positive result from a proper test.Don’t just give your birds drugs for the sake of it.You will only end up with weak birds that will in turn breed weak birds.This is why web sites like this are so valable to the fancier who wants to improve their knowledge.Hope this comment creates some discussion.I would like to hear what other fanciers think about treatment programs and what they think routine medicating is doing to our birds in the “long term”.

  35. #36 by Peet Steinmann on November 17, 2010 - 1:23 pm

    In South Africa the sport is very large. The only problem is like all over the world, MONEY. Feed prices going up every month, Petrol prices rocket and to import electronic ring, clocks, or any thing else, cost us a “arm and a leg”
    I love my pigeons and will go all the way to make them proud.
    I stoped for about 5 years due to medical conditions, and re-start this year. Not mutch has changed exept the feed and medicine prices.
    Its good to see old friend again.
    South Africa

  36. #37 by RUSSELL CASE on October 28, 2010 - 3:49 am

    I think pigeon is racing is failing mainly due to the cost that is put on pigeon fanciers all over Australia, with little prize money on racers, with the exception of a few racers a year, and then it cost a lot to enter the cost of transporting is increasing every year and now we have to purchase our own truck where rail was a option before.pigeon racing used to be the poor man racing sport not any more the poor man has been left out once again. No more can people retire to a hobby of racing pigeons like was more possible in past unless they have quit a bit of money behind them. I think all members in club should do there most to retain member and encourage other members to join

  37. #38 by Sherif El-Shennawi on October 23, 2010 - 6:48 am

    Dear Chris,
    I will be talking regarding Racing Pigeons in EGYPT. Actually, it was fading away since Year 2004 /2005 due to the Bird flew and people ignorance.
    But it is starting again and I already re-joined the Egyptian Racing Pigeons Club and hopefully to start breeding & Racing again.
    It is growing again slowly but surely. I believe that we need to educate the people and increase advertising more about this SPORT in Egypt.
    I will be in touch.
    Thanks & Regards,
    Sherif El-Shennawi

  38. #39 by ken on October 11, 2010 - 11:53 pm

    In australia it is definately declining. All the reasons mention previously have some input into the decline. I also think that the clubs and federations are at fault for not trying different ideas. The big racers and the richer flyers have a monopoly on the best pigeons and good luck to them but they are the one,s making it hard for the not so wealthy to get into our sport.We need to race in classes so the smaller flyer will have a chance. Why not have divisions, ie class1 over 100 birds registered for the year, class2 50 – 100 birds and class3 under 50. Now all birds are rung and nominated at the start of the year and cannot fly in a lower class. At least the smaller flyer can still complete at amuch lower cost. Another reason is that our children are being brought up to respect all animals now and don,t understand why a lover of pigeons doesn,t mind loosing say a hundred a year or killing the breeders that have not performed. Its all about the clubs changing the way they run. I left racing 40 years ago and except for electric timing and 1 loft racing not much has changed except the decline of flyers.

  39. #40 by juvin on October 11, 2010 - 6:46 am

    Iether it’s dying or growing, it must be recommended to our youth as of today to compete with their habit of computer games it’s not good for them spending hours infront of their computer. here in my country pigeon racing is growing.people love pigeon racing and caring their pets like pigeons.

  40. #41 by Russell on October 9, 2010 - 10:39 am

    Here in the UK the number seems to be dropping by around 5% annually, and this will increase as the older fanciers either give up because they can no longer cope; or die. Few youngsters seem to be coming into the sport

  41. #42 by chris on October 5, 2010 - 12:48 pm

    i would never inbreed we as long as i can help it i no most if not all these days breed fathers to daughter ect to try improve the new pigeons witch is wrong in my eyes

  42. #43 by whamie on October 4, 2010 - 8:30 am

    I raised pigeons with my father 20 years ago, when he died we sold the farm. I think with the internet people are more connected, but also have more distractions, i.e. video games and immediate gratification “objects” in their life.

    The comment on loosing birds stems back to immediate gratification. Birds are atheletes of the sky, you must train them, work them to get results. A toss once a month is not the same as training them. If you drive to work…10-40 miles away… toss a few each day.

    I know I will hear negative comments on this but I also think too much direct inbreeding dumbs a bird down… sometimes they won’t trap, can’t find their way home, they obviously have recessive traits which have been amplified…this is where the skill of the breeder comes into play. You can only blame 50% on the birds… YOU are it’s keeper.

  43. #44 by chris on October 3, 2010 - 2:14 pm

    hey all im 22 and re joining the sport as i been out it for 9years lol 😀 so im back haha my little brother whos 15 joining me this time to learn 😀 and tbh i think the sports dying due to BOP tbh people fed of of lossing birds to them

  44. #45 by ronny on October 1, 2010 - 3:01 pm

    I am new to pigeon racing so I really don’t know if it’s growing or dying. I voted growing for I hope it is. One thing is that maybe if more people really knew about it and the fun and possibilities that were there more people might get interested.

    In my case I never thought of it until a friend told me about his pigeons and the racing of them.

    I’m sure there has been promotions done on it but maybe if wider coverage was there… Maybe..!!

  45. #46 by ronny on October 1, 2010 - 2:55 pm

    I am new to pigeon racing so I really don’t know if it’s growing or dying. I voted growing for I hope it is. One thing is that maybe if more people really new about it and the fun and possibilities that were there more people might get interested.

    In my case I never thought of it until a friend told me about his pigeons and the racing of them.

    I’m sure there has been promotions done on it but maybe if wider coverage was there… Maybe..!!

  46. #47 by shane on September 27, 2010 - 3:20 am

    Hey Chris

    difficult ? if we consider the horseracing industry do we think its dying ? dont think so .. wat ar dey doing right. I dont think there is enuf advertising in the industry. Also maybe the bigger names (Fanciers) in the industry need to set prices more reasonably to allow a broader distribution of better birds to the industry .. i am not so sure they will see it this way as they ared probably happy with selling a few birds as opposed to mass distribution which would open up the industry. Clubs need to find ways to raise money as opposed to just squeaker sales/bird auctions… mayvbe even try
    something like betting. Radio stations and newspapers shud also try and help with publicity … one of the richest races hapn in SA but the publicity does not strike me as strong as e.g football or horseracing. We should also target schools and churches etc to promote the sport. i hope this as a bit more positive, we cant simply say its dying, we are not a dying breed our association with birds goes way back in time for us not to adopt a positive strategy. rgds shane

  47. #48 by George Howell on September 22, 2010 - 8:17 pm

    The sport is slowly dying. Not because of video games or cell phones because of the money races. These big money races have hurt this sport more then anything. People now days worry about the money races and less about flying.

  48. #49 by Allan Bieske on September 22, 2010 - 9:14 am

    After being out of the sport for 10 years I have decided to start racing again with the old family I have had, the Slimme x Putts. As I am from Cape town, South Africa, the SA guys will know them well.
    The problem starts when you try and build a loft.
    1.If you are renting a house and do not know your fellow next door, you are heading for trouble.
    2.You need building plans for a loft that has a roof over your head which is the standard I surpose for many types of lofts.

    After going through all these growing pains, and thinking of the huge loft and hundreds of racing and stock birds I had in the past, I decided on the following which ties into your question of where do we think the sport is going.
    1.In Cape Town the prices of houses are very high so for me at the moment renting is the way to go, and then the houses are small which means a small loft as the back yard is very small
    2.A small loft means only a few good birds(STOCK OF MAYBE 5-6 PAIRS).
    3. If the loft is small enough you get away from building plans.
    4. You have not got hundreds of race birds training around the loft so your fellows next door calm down to a simmer.

    So, this is what I done, I built a tumbler style loft. I built 3 sections of 1.8m high x .6m deep and I devided this into top and bottom with a wire floor between.
    I built 3 of them, bolted them together giving 2.4 m lenght x .6 deep, giving you 6 sections with 6 perches in each section.Thats 36 birds.Each section has its own trap and door, so it from the pirch straight outside. Works like a charm.Even my stock birds are loving it.
    So in closing, yes, members may not be getting any more, but we also don’t need to go hugh on lofts and buying expesive birds, there are other ways of doing it and still having just as good a time with the birds we all love so much.
    Allan Bieske
    Cape Town

  49. #50 by Joel Mijares on September 21, 2010 - 12:13 am

    Hi Chris,

    Here in the Philippines pigeon racing is becoming more popular. Both young and old loves the sport. If you ask me its growing here in the Philippines. The only problem would be the financial status of the individual racing and breeding the pigeons. In our country many clubs came out but not all of them are establish some are just starting. Some fanciers can only join smaller clubs because they cannot afford to join the well known clubs due to the cost they will be paying to participate in the young and old bird categories. Like me I cannot afford to become a member of a big club because the cost of the rings they are issuing is to expensive for me. I cannot even afford to buy imported pigeons abroad. Fortunately I have good friends around that lend me quality pigeons. But still I haven’t achieve a good ranking in pigeon racing still waiting for the luck I need.

    Thanks and regards,

    Joel Mijares

    • #51 by eduardo salazar on November 19, 2010 - 3:33 pm

      TOL its true to being a member there in philippines is very expensive especially for only the ring they will issue they cost a lot,even when im there i cant afford to join that club,i have a lot of good pigeon before and i have a lot of winning pigeon before,,,i’ll stay in manila…good luck na lang tol,,,

  50. #52 by William on September 20, 2010 - 5:51 am

    Hi Chris
    Here is South Africa the sport is defniately dying. It is very difficult for a new guy to find his feet in the sport. With the increase in cost to start off and the big losses in the beginning of the season is some of the main factors – i think. We often find new guys that race for a season or two and then give up the sport.

    William Warner
    South Africa

  51. #53 by Leugim Cacatian on September 19, 2010 - 11:18 pm

    Here in The Philippines pigeon racing is growing. From Mano Y Mano pigeon race most commonly known here as “street-fight pigeon racing ” wherein as early age of 6 year old kid to 80 year old senior citizen races, these is only for non-registered race. Pigeon clubs/associations grows like mushroom wherein every town or province has its own pigeon clubs not one but at least three(3) clubs. I’ve temporarily stopped racing due to some personal issues, maybe in the middle of next year i’ll start again with new strategies.

  52. #54 by bearman on September 19, 2010 - 8:50 am

    I have been in this hobby for 3 years. I am 42 and the ytoungest member in our club. I have struggled the last two years and have just finally found a person that will really help me…… how sad is that?

  53. #55 by Joe Walsh Dublin Ireland on September 16, 2010 - 9:38 am

    Hi Guys

    The sport is having major problems here in Ireland due mainly to hawks and the like we are loosing up to %50 of our young birds. This is causing young fanciers problems in building up a team of old birds as well as the cost of food, training, ets and club/fed fees. Its very expensive to start up now for young fanciers and with the ets they are put off by fanciers clocking 6 or 7 birds in 3 or 4 seconds.

    Dublin Ireland

  54. #56 by Tim on September 11, 2010 - 6:53 am

    The previous comment is baseless. You don’t need a hundred pigeons and a mega loft to compete. Do your homework, know the genetics, breed wisely. Train and condition your birds. These are all things that YOU do for YOUR birds. You cannot BYY a race. Racing pigeons are the theornreds of the sky.. just lika any athelete, they need proper food, sleep and exercise.

    The early pioneers in pigeons mostly did it on NO buget…just passion i.e. the Jasseson’s and others. The problem now is everyone wants immediate gratification and no work…NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

  55. #57 by paul pashley on September 9, 2010 - 5:17 am

    i think its dying because we have made it to expensive to start up for youngsters ie loft /clock pigeons and then good flyers timing loads of birds in and the youngsters get fed up and leave

  56. #58 by Ivan on September 5, 2010 - 10:17 am

    Hi, Ivan from India,Would agree that the sport on the decline, but I feel that we fanciers are partly to blame, as we have risen the stakes of pigeon racing, We have turned this from a hobby to a business venture these days.I find very few fanciers coming forward to help a beginner in the sport.this should start first and we should start by taking the first step.

  57. #59 by Tim on August 30, 2010 - 3:13 am

    There needs to be new races…large and small..one lofts…follow the Taiwanese style or the Europeans. I have been out for over 15 years after my fathers death, just getting back in. There needs to be a social media blitz showing what the rest of the world is doing. I have a degree in marketing and advertising and electronic communications… more coverage of races, lofts, etc.

    The average person simply knows nothing about pigeon racing…

    Be safe

  58. #60 by Glen Comeau on August 23, 2010 - 1:33 pm

    The Racing Pigeon sport is surely Growing Fastest in the “One Loft $$ Races” BUT the Ecconomy does’nt help the unemployed or low income Racers/Flyers wanting to fly the 1 lofters, because they cost a ton of money to enter. Ide suggest for someone to Bring a new 1 loft race with 1000+ birds into the U.S.A. that Isnt so costly and more flyers could have a chance to race in this 1 loft $$$ race. Like a flat entry fee of $25.00 or $50.00 per 3 bird team or $25 per bird WITHOUT ANY perch fees and have the total amount of all monies going {only} to the 1st 10 placing birds in that race. if you dont place in the top 10 the you have only lost a small amount of cash Then we will see who has the best futurity Birds. and ile betfor sure that alot of FLYERS WHO DONT RACE FUTURITIES because of the $$$$$$ factor would come out of the woodwork for this race if some one would just DO IT!! -GlenComLofts

  59. #61 by km on August 22, 2010 - 2:31 pm

    I personally think pigeon racing is very much interesting and it’s growing especially in Gulf Country
    Such as State of Qatar, UAE and Kuwait mainly during winter season,
    In Qatar we do it every weekend and we have very good champion pigeons.

    Best Regards,

  60. #62 by Pete on August 20, 2010 - 1:45 pm

    I got into pigeons by finding an injured racing pigeon in my garden, I nursed it back to health and it went on its way.
    I then thought that I would like to keep some of my own. I went to the library and read all about what I would need and what it entailed. So I bought a loft, kitted it out with nest boxes and purchased food and grit. I then went looking for some stock birds only to find the nearest place I could buy some good birds was 110 miles away, but that did not deter me. I got them home and settled into there new loft and they soon started breeding. Before I new it I had a team to train, as Started traing them I looked at joining my local pigeon racing club which was 15 miles away to find that it would only accept fanciers within a 5 mile radius, so I only fly my birds as a hobby. If this is the case around the world then the sport will die out.

  61. #63 by willie on August 11, 2010 - 2:49 am

    I am recently from South Africa and started in 1976 but as a junior since i was 8 years old. I am now 55.The costs and the media that keep children in doors give the sport a big draw back.The other problem is people must get his family involve and stop using it for a reason to drink or to visit co-fanciers that end up in parties.This is a few things to me that are the reason for poor membership figures. We can talk all night about this subject it is really a serious problem.
    Regards out of the best place to be Napier.

  62. #64 by Shokri on August 8, 2010 - 12:08 am

    I’m 16, and just getting into pigeon racing I’m not going to say if its dying or not but I’ll just say things that I have noticed.
    Its expensive you need a loft, waterers, feeders, some type of trap, clock, member ship fees, racing fees, feed which is pretty expensive, baskets, and road training will do a dent in the gas bill. Doesn’t seem to be that many nice guys when I go to the club only about 3 guys even acknowledge me (a club with almost 20 members if not more) the president completely ignores me, luckily one of the guys is one of the kindest men I’ve ever met in my life if he wasn’t there I probably wouldn’t be doing this. No one knows what pigeon racing is no one knows that exists to many people think the only types of pigeons out there are the white ones and the ferals.
    I like being outside I feel better and breathe better I tried out video games but 300$+ for a console and 60$ for a game and I don’y even enjoy it that much yea right. I like animals and so far I haven’y finished my loft but I got 1,000$ put into my 12 x 10, I have a job and I’d rather pay 60$ worth of feed then of hours of mild entertainment that distracts me from schoolwork. I say let people know that the sport exists and the ones that are meant to be in it will further research it and possibly enter it.

  63. #65 by Whitney on August 7, 2010 - 4:33 pm

    I love the sport of racing pigeons and have been involved for three years. The AU has statists that state that the sport is growing. This may be true, but as the AU Youth Ambassador, I find that kids try the sport for a year or two and then become discouraged and quit. As a young fancier myself, I do find the sport challenging and sometimes discouraging. Racing pigeons are teachers and if new fanciers are diligent enough to learn their lessons, our wonderful sport will continue on.

  64. #66 by christy corbett on August 4, 2010 - 1:48 pm

    hi im an irish guy living in holland racing the birds,if someone wants to share views ye can e-mail me at chcorbett@casema.nl

  65. #67 by mostafa on August 2, 2010 - 1:51 am


  66. #68 by billy on July 29, 2010 - 10:48 am

    i understand the concept of the younger generation not being interested ,but being a novice myself ,a little help and some information and tips .would go a long way.the older members in my club in the uk are like the secret service and will not tell you anything in fear of you beating them in the race.iunderstand that the races are a competition but it is also supposed to be a relaxing sport/hobby.for instance i asked a couple of members the exact location 10/12 miles away for a training chuck i knew the area but after asking where exactly it was not a one would tell me.ive only been in the sport a year myself but with other club members acting the way they do it can be off-putting.

  67. #69 by Janie S on July 26, 2010 - 3:33 pm

    I raise pigeons and have for 30 years. They are the most relaxing, enjoyable little creatures in the world. Just bought my first pair of pedigreed racing homers and as soon as the babies are old enough I will train them here since I moved into a rural area now. Occasionally people will stop by my home because they’ve seen my birds flying around out here and they ask lots of questions so people are interested. Maybe more of us should go to the schools and show the children what it’s all about? I’m sure some would be eager to try flying pigeons. Mike Tyson is going to be on Animal Planet after the 1st of the year with “taking on Tyson” a series about racing homers!! This should interest people also.

  68. #70 by ex-para on July 23, 2010 - 5:15 am

    I am in the UK and yes pigeon racing is dwindling but I do not think it will die out as specialist clubs are springing up here and there with people from all areas both for sprint and distance.

  69. #71 by bryan on July 22, 2010 - 2:24 am

    racing pigeon sports is continuous to grow because their some people curious about pigeon racing and he want try this sports as a merely habit

  70. #72 by Azhar on July 21, 2010 - 9:58 am

    Dear Chris & Friends,

    I am from Pakistan and specifically from the city of Lahore, the second biggest city of our country.I am new at pigeon racing and have joined this forum to get insights and tips from experienced fellow pigeon racers. Pigeon racing in Pakistan is unorganized but very popular. Although we do not have formal clubs or forums such as this one, many individuals in villages, towns and cities indulge in this sport. Since there are no formal clubs in our country, races are organized by individuals (pigeon lovers), 20 to 25 in all, belonging to a specific area. These individuals also pool in the prize money for the winning pigeons. The pigeon races take place in the months of May and June when temperature is around 42 to 45 degree centigrade. Pigeon racing in Pakistan is different from other countries as here the pigeon that comes last is the winner. When the pigeons are flown from the loft in the morning, they fly in circles over the loft till they disappear in he sky. When they return, some in the late evening and some earlier than that, they again fly over the loft in circles for sometime before landing. The pigeon that comes last is declared the winner as he has flown the most.

    Although the sport is popular in Pakistan it is highly unorganized. If there were more clubs and forums such as this one, this sport would become even more popular. The clubs and forums can not only help beginners like myself but can motivate young people to take up this highly exciting sport.

    I hope that I have shed some light on the state of Pigeon racing in Pakistan. I hope to gain a lot from fellow members of this group.

    Thank you

  71. #73 by froy on July 20, 2010 - 2:45 am

    hi chris and to everyone who loves and enjoys the sport of pigeon racing. i do agree with my fellow countrymen or would i say my “kababayans” that here in the philippines pigeon racing is indeed a very popular sport and continues to grow. im just new to this sport and i find it very challenging and exciting,i really enjoyed it specially when you see your birds fly at your area. but what really amazes me is that they can come home even in a such great distance,they can fly as far as a thousand kilometers or so. to me,the sport of pigeon racing requires a good depth of knowledge if you want to excel in this sport. its sad to know that in other countries that the sport is dwindling if not dying. to the newcomers like me,you must educate yourselves to learn more before you do this just what im doing. technology is there already,you can learn from the internet specially in this site were there is so many information that can help us a lot,almost the information that you need,you can get there or u can also learn from a seasoned fancier. you dont have to be rich to enjoy the sport,what does matter is you must enjoy what you been doing,taking care of the birds,feed them right,exercise them,all of these if you treat them right and they will reward you at the end. and im also taking this oppurtunity to thank all you guys specially chris for having this site,very useful and helpful specially for the beginners like me. have a grea time to all, MABUHAY to all pigeon lovers! Thanks

  72. #74 by Bob Horr on July 19, 2010 - 3:12 am

    Dear friends in sport,

    There is a question, where is our sport and where it is going. I am from Slovakia, the 5 mil. residents country with approx. 3800 pigeon racers. I am also a small retail store with all goods for pigeons and I speak on daily basis with fanciers. Problem is, that our market is shrinking as well as the sport. Prices of medications, vitamins, minerals, special feeds etc. are very high. Basketing prices are high as well. Just for example, 65% of all racers in Slovakia are retired people, with average pension of approx. 350€ a month. To basket 1 pigeon to let say to race from Germany cost you 1€. To get basket for a season for older pigeons cost 150€ (1 basket = 30 pigeons), basket for youngsters is additional. If one wants to race 60 pigeons (older categories) and let say 150 youngsters, its a simple math. With few pigeons, especially youngsters, your selection is very limited and so on. Times, when racers used wheet, barley, corn, sunflower and some peas as a all year mixture and mostly from their own fields are far gone. I am not even touching purchases of breeders from western Europe.
    Anyway, we have still fun and if we find the way, how to put more prize money to motivate more racers, will be even more fun.
    Good luck and best regards,

  73. #75 by hatchman on July 12, 2010 - 3:43 am

    4 me pigeon means business, a hobby that i earn a little amount of money. “buy and sell” i do not have a regular job so i need to be resourceful to support myself even my hobby w/c is pigeonracing.me and my bestfriend finance to buy dozens of pigeons who lost in race at taiwan. we have a contact(tribes people) who lives in a northern part of the philippines the “bataan island” a small island near in taiwan(60kms distance from taiwan) on their last lap of race pigeons must pass through in this island. many stops here because of hard rain, strong winds and storm that their encountered in the middle of the sea.we all know that the competiton in taiwan is very tough, the race must go-on even on a disaster wheather. u know guys i luv the taiwanline, let me share this to you if u dont mind. by 2007 me and my partner try to use taiwanline, so we entry only 2birds on 2008. the lastlap derby race is very tough, birds encountered strong storm and hardrain over six hundred birds have been released but suddenly only “1”bird has arrived luckily its mine its our bird. by 2008, another batch of pigeon delivered to us came from “bataan island” i select a couple of bird to breed again. after i produce a pair of youngster we sell it all again. lastyear, is the judgment day for my (2)two new youngsters, i entry and i race again. on our first lap of derby race a (250km)race another bad situation happens, birds encounter a storm and hardrain on their way.. over two(2) thousand birds have been released and only four birds has arrived on that day. again, the first bird who was arrive is mine, its our pigeon. we became lap championagain.. u know my best secret is “i always beliv for what im seeing” im talking about the external qualities of the bird. if u will see the birds that i luv to choose does have good and clear eyes(pearl eye) mad face, medium strain,short neck bec.of broad shoulders and VERY THICK SHOULDER WING. thats why strong winds doesnt throw them out on the track race and even rains wont fail down in race bec of this qualities. its a pleasure to me to share this to you, and thats the main reason why i luv this sports. “i luv winning and sharing” thank you!

  74. #76 by jeff barnfield on July 9, 2010 - 3:09 am

    hi Chris.
    I am brand new to your web site.I live in Christchurch New Zealand.Age 56 years, I have owned pigeons since I was 11.Would have owned them earlier but my father wouldnt let me keep any until I sneaked a pair home.
    Pigeon racing in Christchurch is quite strong but like many sports today it is quite a struggle to get the young people interested.
    The other factor is the expense and the animal husbandry expertise required.
    Of course there is the age old problem of the older fanciers not wanting to help new fanciers for fear of being beaten.
    The main thing I dislike about pigeon racing is culling, in fact I hate it.
    As I have improved my birds over many years the young bird return percentages have gone up markedly,especially this season with about 95% returned from races.
    So with our breeding season beginning in August some sacrifices will have to be made to make way for the new youngsters.
    Will have to try and keep the new team very small this year.
    Our federation is quite strong and owns it’s own trucks.NZ pigeons have to be quite tough as NZ has some quite fickle weather,probably one of the few countries in the world where you can quite literally get all four seasons in one day.
    Christchurch is normally cold and wet in the winter with the odd snow storm down to sea level,spring is also normally cool.Christchurch summers can also be fairly cool until February/March when temperatures can reach into the high 90’s.Autum/fall can be quite warm and mild too.
    Most lofts are generally well closed in due to the unpredicatable weather paterns.
    Most proliffic strain down here are Janseen or Janseen crosses.
    I don’t race many Janseen/crosses myself,have my own NZ blue chequer middle distance strain which can do quite well in most weather conditions/occasionally they have won sprint races when our seaside location is favoured by the wind.
    Take care.
    Regards from Jeff.

  75. #77 by jAxTecH on June 25, 2010 - 3:44 am

    I am new to pigeon racing. I found out about this sport after buying 4 pigeons from my local feedstore and no one there could tell me anything about how to take care of them..so I did research on the internet and found out how to properly house and take care of pigeons and in the process discovered this sport. For me being new the biggest obstacle to pigeon racing is the cost. I am “hooked” and will overcome the the huge costs but it is a burden. A unikon clock is $1000..club fees, AU membership,cost of feed, cost of medicines,cost to ship birds for races,cost of materials for building a loft, on top of supporting a family and a mortgage in a down turned economy adds up. No worries though..I love my birds and plan to keep taking it one day at a time.
    As far as the future of pigeon racing I believe if they ever develop the technology to race pigeons with micro gps leg bands in realtime then the popularity of the sport will boom. People could then watch online anywhere in the world via the internet and web enabled cell phones pigeon races…It would be better then Nascar, Horse racing & Greyhound racing combined. Everyone anywhere could access the bio and history of thier favorite bird online and wagers and odds could be placed in Vegas and Atlantic City..it could be bigger then its ever been before. Once these kids realize raising a champion bird can bring in the money they’ll loose interest in xboxes & playstations and they will pick up the training basket. People said online gambling would never work…and the creators of those sites are multi-millionaires now. Once pigeon races are broadcast live online in realtime and you can track the weather conditions and any birds flight path, past performances, heredity then I believe this old sport will be reborn into the “Main Stream”. Prize money has a way of opening peoples minds past bad stereo types of “flying rats” to the more accurate “Thoroughbreds of The Skies”..and in a pigeon race your odds of winning are better then in any lottery.

    • #78 by Dream Flyer on July 10, 2010 - 7:24 am

      Hi Jack,
      I think you have a valid point and I also forsee a future where hi-tech equipment will play a major role in our sport. Imagine you can see your bird fly with the pack and imagine the exitement of the final stretch to home and imagine the fear and drama expierianced by those watching the race on a monitor when the pack are under attack by falcons etc. It is mind boggling to even immagen this but I think it is closer than we think. I agree with you that the pigeon racing sport will become a multi million dollar buisiness if this can be achieved. There are no jockeys or reverees to cook the results so people will bed freely and the action will be mind blowing.

  76. #79 by Warren Smith on June 24, 2010 - 12:30 pm

    I think this sport is growing in areas where the local fanciers are interested in seeing it grow. If your local club and combine is not growing, then all you need to do is start doing something about it. The challenge is, that many people would rather sit back and whine about how their club or combine sport is in decline, rather then get out of their chair and do something about it.

    As far as some of the posts claiming the sport has gotten “Too Expensive”…I think the reality is, many people who are currently in the sport and claiming it costs too much, simply do not make enough money. Odds are, they could not afford to play a few rounds of golf a week either. I suspect that such folks would be whining that the sport of golf has gotten “Too Expensive ” as well.

  77. #80 by Jazz on June 20, 2010 - 6:56 pm

    Hi Chris

    I agree with most people that our sport is dying off because, it is becoming to expensive.
    The realy good flyers ask for to much money when bying pigeons for stock.

    Pigeon racing should be a hobby not a full time job,as a lot of pigeon flyers are.

    A new flyer once told me he tryed to bye pigeons from different flyers and it started to get to expebsive so he gave up.

    I beleve that the older generation of pigeon flyers need to help the new generation,on how to race pigeons,the art of racing pigeons can be very hard
    Every bit of information is costley ie books,videos, etc.

    Back in the sixtees when I was a kid of 8,the only information you could get was talking to older flyers and so on.

    Now a days we get information on the net,so we are cutting out the older generation
    with all there fast amount of knowledge,there is nothing like arranging to go and see another pigeon flyer at his place and talking to him on the art of pigeon racing,and seeing how he races his pigeons,how the loft is set up etc,seeing is beleving.
    Lets get back to pigeon racing being a hobby not a full time job.And help all new flyers as much as possible with goos solid information.

  78. #81 by hatchman on June 20, 2010 - 3:03 am

    its gettin bigger and larger here in the philippines. we have 65 clubs raising and rising.. next week our training toss will start so hope to see you guys again in raceday even on finals. gudluck and “mabuhay”!!

  79. #82 by Hermono on June 19, 2010 - 5:53 pm

    Hi Chris, We in Indonesia play different types of racing. It is encouraging to witness that more and more young people are involved in the game. Racing pigeon as we commonly known (homing) is not that popular.

    The way we race is unique and I think can not be found in other parts of the world.

  80. #83 by anthony on June 19, 2010 - 12:07 pm

    Depents on which part of the world,I am sure that in countries like Bulgaria and the countries next to it, our sport is growing.Ironicly I can;t say the same when I talk about my country Malta.One of my happiest season was last year 2009,we started a new pigeon racing club in my erea and since we have no money to buy the premises I allowed my garage to be used for basketing and clock setting.By the end of the season the police came to stop us from doing this,they say we have no permision.All was invain telling the autorities that we where doing nothing wrong,they wanted us to stop so we had to stop.With difficulty we encouraged some lads to take pigeon racing instead of doing drugs,we gave them pigeons,material for the lofts and nearly everything they needed,we nearly made it with them but even this it’s nothing for the autorities.How, may I ask ,can someone encourage new blood to this hobby.Since here we don’t have back gardens nearly all our lofts are kept on the roofs(we have flat roofs)Again the autorities wants us to apply for a permission,when they know that no one can get a permission to keep pigeons on the roof!!!!It’s so complicated here that you don’t need a lot of thinking to conclude that our hobby is dying,or beeing killed!!!!

  81. #84 by Rob Frayne on June 18, 2010 - 12:56 pm

    Yes, I’m afraid the sport in my area Swansea, U.K is slowly but surely dying.
    Very few youngsters seem to be taking up the sport. I only know of two new members starting up in the area over the last couple of seasons. There were several clubs in the area in the 70s that had large membership, but for various reasons, retiring from the sport I believe being the biggest example they have all dwindled down to clubs running with just over the bare amount to keep the club running. Any movement of membership would result in the club having to fold. I don’t know if the cost of setting up with the weekly subs that holds them back or there is no general interest in the sport. Very few youngsters these days ask about the Racing pigeons (where are you sending them ? or how long does it take for them to home etc ??) Although most clubs in my area have received various grants for new equipment clocks, panniers etc they have not I believe used some of the cash to try and recruit new members to the sport. i.e Advertising Free membership and reduced fees, help with birds etc
    yours in sport

  82. #85 by Andi Lee on June 18, 2010 - 6:54 am

    In my country,Indonesia, it growing sport,but we as younger hard to find a new young people who like it,cause it some kind of expensive sport here.But we try to grow it to become famous, even it have a small prize for winner.

  83. #86 by AMEEN AL ISLAM on June 17, 2010 - 11:34 am

    it is time that we come up with video games that will encourage young people to join the sports,show them the beauty of the real struggle of the human soul,pigeons respresent the human soul,the human soul is constantly struggleing to get to know it CREATOR find it way home to please the one who created it..

  84. #87 by eric miele on June 12, 2010 - 10:39 pm

    i think the the sport is growing maybe not as fast as we may like but it is growing if more people talked about it and the history be hind it i think alot more people would be iterested in it and if the oldtimers and new comers could and share knolegeand not keep everthing a secret help each other out instead of saying i dont know or you cant do that and not explain why but with the internet now you can get alot of good info

  85. #88 by Vickie Larson on June 11, 2010 - 4:17 pm

    I hope it’s not dying!!! My family has only had birds for three years now. We are raising homers and domices (sorry spelling). we hope to start back yard flying soon and racing next year. We are in 4H and my daughter shows the birds now, but as general leader I hope to get a race/ class out there for the 4H kids to learn what it’s all about. But first I have to learn . Ha Ha We are meeting more and more flyers that we didn’t know until we saw their birds. There are so many great bird people in our area. I have meet this old soul in a boys body through 4H and a coworker of mine that blows my socks off !!!!! this young boy knoledge of birds and flying , breeding and lines is right up there with and 80 year old man! young people like him wont let this die! no this is something we need to get to the city kids as well as the farm kids — kids always have loved animal and they will fall in love with pigeons like we all have.

  86. #89 by clem sedgman on June 9, 2010 - 3:42 am

    Hello from down under,
    Chris it has probably all been said so my comment is this…
    We have a very marketable product but we are keeping it to ourselves why not have a National Pigeon Racing month each year and have every pigeon group put in and run a national pigeon racing campaign on TV. It would be awesome.
    Ask 20 people in the street if they know about pigeon racing and there will not be too many who have ever heard of it so lets advertise the sport and share what we do..
    ……. fly baby fly.


  87. #90 by James Seibel on June 3, 2010 - 11:22 pm

    So I call up a member of one club I belong to. I start to ask him questions and explain what he is doing wrong. I tell him many things that very few would tell him. This young member flies at the bottom of the combine and club.

    Tonight June 3 2010 The President of the TAR club a IF club calls me and informs me that they are refunding my $25 dues and that they have set up a new boundary and I am no longer welcome in the club due to my 25 -30 miles over fly on club members. They granted me permission to fly the west course but now that we are back to a South course I am not welcome. The millage difference is less now than the west course . But they dislike being beat.

    I am the SAME person that took out a half page add in the Racing Pigeon Digest giving thanks to different people and telling my system and feed and additives so the area knew what I was doing to win.

    I am also the same person that called the president of the TAR club a year ago and told him vet issues to help his birds . He never knew what I told him and helped him with.

    NOW these are ALL the SAME PEOPLE that WILL NOT ALLOW me to FLY in the TAR club or Turbotsville Area Pigeon Club.

    I strongly support helping people but I think it has come to a end, the conduct of USA pigeons fliers in this area is very poor and sad to say the least.

    And you Wonder why the sport is losing members ?

    How about the Race Secretary we had about 10 years ago that Smashed Birds up on purpose and we not only lost members but a in tire club over it.

    People in the sport better wake up and start being a sportsman. We are a dying breed of people that love to race pigeons. I have seen conduct that is driving people away instead of bringing them into the hobby.

    2 years ago I was called by the If to defuse a issue were a bird was lost in Tenn. and a non flier found it. A member in our area told them to dispose of it and he did not want it back. I offered to pay for its return and the Lady in Tenn. decided to keep the bird. This was real poor conduct by a flier and dose not help our sport one bit. The lady made a big uproar and it got pretty bad.

    Pretty bad when I call a secretary in Conn and he hangs the phone up on me due to he will not even give me the name of the owner of a bird so I can return it. This is another example of how we pigeon fliers represent our hobby to the public.

    Regards JIM

    • #91 by billy on July 29, 2010 - 11:07 am

      hi jim my name is billy i live in the uk and i totally agree with what you are saying.if you have 25 miles overfly then surely it would be harder for you to win so what is thier problem.ive been in the sport for a year now and no-one will help im flying widowhood and darkness system with young birds would you know of a good feeding and water system. we call this sprint races flying 50-214 miles i dont fly the channel races yet(France) as im more interested in the faster races and i just cant seem to gain 2 minutes of time that im losing behind the winner every week any help would be appreciated, thanks.

  88. #92 by Demas Brothers on June 3, 2010 - 4:50 am

    I think is dying because new comers are struggeling and there is no advise or support from the more experience guys.

  89. #93 by James Seibel on June 2, 2010 - 12:37 am

    Reasons : No#1 Pigeon racing is not a fair sport. The sport as I see it is over in this area. LLC combine was 150 fliers the ACA over 175 . The LLC is down to 32 fliers. The combine opened up the boundaries and now I am in the middle . I have fliers 45 miles with over fly . I also have fliers 58 miles short of me. I am in the mountains they are not to the south of me. In 2008 the combine took in a club that was 32 miles from the first race station. I find this insane to fly against some one 82 miles short of me for combine trophy. We fly a South course so with head winds that pick up to 20 mph or higher when the fliers to the south have none I see the odds to great.

    They are out of what I call the pie plate of fair competition . This is very typical of many combines in the USA.

    I ask you fellow fliers Why should I keep flying pigeons with these odds ?

    We keep pigeons in the USA and fly 11 old bird races. We double up 2 weekends and I can fly a bird to only 9 old bird races. That is it, Why keep and feed pigeons to fly only 11 old bird races total ? You see the double weekend you have to have bigger teams to compete against the big lofts.

    I go to the combine meeting a fight against double lofts . I lose the fight, so now a man can ship 2 lofts or double team against mine .
    I fight back and fly two teams , Twice the cost and twice the work . Why keep pigeons and race with such odds against you ?

    If you think for one second that a professional flier shipping 40- 60 or more birds that are in great health and conditions can be beat. You are correct , but very unlikely you will do it. If you do it once you will be lucky. To do it week in week out, Lets face it (think again). The more pigeons you have racing to your loft the better the odds to win.

    You see many retired people just can not afford to keep all these pigeons and if they can not win a race they get tired of the sport and quite. People like to win from time to time. Instead of increasing the numbers you can ship the combine should decrease the limit and Increase the races a man can fly in one day. More races and more chance to win a race. Makes better seance to me!

    Question 2 Why should I fly against a man that will ship 40 birds when I have only 20 or less I can afford ?

    You see in this area we are so spread out that numbers give you the odds, I have shipped little teams and I have shipped double teams. The truth is I won more combine and club races with BIG TEAMS ! Week in Week out , I have tested this over and over for the last 17 years . I have studied other that shipped big teams also.

    This was done for money for the combine to pay the drivers . Instead of raising the price they take in fliers so far a way that it is imposable to win against them. They allow double lofts to take in more money and also to make the rich man with lots of loft space and birds happy.

    These leaders think they are helping the sport but in the end are destroying it more.

    Listen it is NOT the RICH MAN destroying the sport by buying expensive birds. The rich man loves to fly pigeons as well as the poor man. We both love pigeons and racing pigeons. There has to be something done by the better fliers to help the newer or poorer fliers. Or there must me races the little lofts or newer flier can fly that the old pros can not enter.

    In stead of everyone being a secret agent man they should share their know how and birds to help bring up the poor fliers to your level .

    It is not the rich man that destroys the sport but the MONEY that Destroy it. If people did not race for money then secrets would mean less and winning would mean more .Better sportsmanship would see to it that poorer of newer fliers would have a chance to win.

    Trouble with helping people in this area — They pay you back by hurting you in most cases . Rich man is not hurting the sport , it is Poor sportsmanship that is destroying it.

    We have a trailer that holds 46 crates – the crates are 2 feet by 4 feet . Our combine made a rule – NO LESS than 25 birds to a crate. I ask why ? WE have ROOM for less birds in a crate . We have the CRATES to make more room. They jam birds in a crate and I write the AU and IF trying to get support to fight this . I get NONE FROM THE AU OR IF> I ASK WHY should I subject my birds to this abuse. So you see friends there is not a LIMIT of birds to the CRATE . There is a LIMIT of LESS to a CRATE.


    WHY SHOULD I KEEP FLYING PIGEONS IN THIS COMBINE OR CLUB ???? We have the crates we have the slots on the trailer and we only have 32 fliers.

    Do you think I am unhappy ?? You are correct, I can go on with more but will spare every one.

    It is not the Rich man or high cost that is destroying the sport it is the people running it .

  90. #94 by Bill Jacobs on May 30, 2010 - 6:41 am

    Hi the sport of pigeon racing is dying in New Zealand, if your 50 years young.Or younger then your one of the youngest in the sport today.
    Alot to do with this is fuel cost pushing up the price of grain due to freight costs. Also the freight costs for sending pigeon to race points.
    The flier of today keeps far less birds than they used to mainly because there are a lot more retied folks.
    Quick story to contradict my statement (opinion)A retired man just bought another house in the area i live in just to race pigeons.He kept the other house and just races young birds. INSANE if you ask me.

  91. #95 by Dindo Caparas on May 28, 2010 - 12:34 am

    I think is continueing growing…Even here in the philippines. We have organized for all lovers in pigeon here in my place and most of them are joined in the fun race. We have coming race this july up to december. More powers guyS!

  92. #96 by Manie Kritzinger on May 26, 2010 - 7:12 pm

    Hi I have just reread my piece, and notice I forgot to say that the nine fanciers that died was in our town Rustenburg, and the one newcomer is in our club of 16 members and there are four clubs in our town

  93. #97 by Manie Kritzinger on May 26, 2010 - 6:48 pm

    Hi everybody, here in South Africa our sport is slowly dying, in the last 9 years only one young guy started racing pigeons and nine older members died, so we are definitely not growing, there are various reasons and none of us has all the answers, in my own case I have two sons aged 20 and 25 and neither of them are interested in pigeons allthough both helps me whenever I need them, they prefer to play X box and computor games which was nonexistent when we were growing up, we all kept Bantams and pigeons, where our children grew up with super computors and cellphones, maybe this is a natural development that is part of the evolution of the human race, but they are sure missing out on a wonderfull and totaly fulfilling hobby.
    And then there is the most imediate reason COSTS!!! that includes everything in our sport, from the birds to the loft construction, feed, medicines, fuel etc. this forces a number of current fanciers like pensioners out of the sport as well.
    In the meantime I plan to enjoy my birds and continue racing as long as possible

  94. #98 by Anthony Williams on May 22, 2010 - 8:57 pm

    The current state of pigeon racing in the US is not good. However, Mike Tyson will have a reality TV show in the fall which may give it a spark. All clubs should be ready to capitalize on this by hosting events that will alow the public to access to the sport.

    Chris :
    Unfortunatley I personally think pigeon racing is a dying sport. I don’t think that pigeon racing can compete with todays technologies like video games and cell phones.

  95. #99 by john on May 22, 2010 - 8:57 am

    Hi all
    Yes i feel it’s on the decline and there’s good reasons for the decline as it used to be a hobbie for a kid, Then it grew into a sport and a teenager ,Then as a young man it turned into a full blown BUSINESS . Now tell me how a young boy or girl could fit into that realm and be able to compeat in the races, you have to start slowly and be willing to learn.
    I have personaly have tried to help younger flyers with pigeons(not my best but to see if they would take care of them ) but to only see them not even try to make a go of it, and either lose interest and let them go or just not take care of the birds . And not just one time but many times, So that’s why i feel it’s on it’s way out, either they are all about money and ego, or they are not willing to put in the hard work and effort!
    Sorry but that’s my view on the subject………

  96. #100 by Todd Chuha on May 11, 2010 - 4:58 pm

    Nobody under 50 even seems to know about it. I’m new to the sport and feel if more information was made public, it would catch on. It would be easier for people to start if old timers would be willing to share knowledge, I’ve been trying to comunicate with clubs in my area but only get a pamplet on the history of pigeons and nothing but websites selling supplies or books for $45 a piece, only one person has called me back willing to share his knowledge. You can read all about them on the computer but people need to actually see the sport in person to appriciate it for what it is.

  97. #101 by Ryan Chetty on May 8, 2010 - 2:34 pm

    I race pigeons in South Africa in the Easten Cape .My problem is that there is not enough young people joining the sport.

  98. #102 by mr. harry loft on May 4, 2010 - 8:46 pm

    I feel the pigeon flying sport is dieing. This is my second year flying and I’m the only one I know my age that is flying pigeons. The sport is not promoted on tv and is very expensive to train and race. I know that in 30 years when I retired spring hills Florida will be my number one choice. I currently live in long island ny. I’d like to thank Dominic curusso, JoEy jap, cosimo fuchini. These men have supported me with birds, information and have helped me train top pedigree birds. this year will be my prize year thank you all keep promoting racing flying

    birds. this year will be my prize year thank you all keep promoting racing flying

  99. #103 by Alph on April 30, 2010 - 4:16 am

    in our country Philippines the pigeon racing gets bigger and bigger more person loves to breed and race there pigeons

  100. #104 by Skull on April 28, 2010 - 1:09 pm


    By us in SA it is even dying as there are no youngsters coming into the sport.
    When i started in 1993 our club had 37 members, now in 2010 we are only 15.

    The game is to expensive for newcomers who dont know that it takes a few years to actually get somewhere in racing! They start, spend a lot of money, and if they dont get instant success they quit!


  101. #105 by Kaylee on April 23, 2010 - 7:24 pm

    Personally I think it is also dying. Though there may be many racers out there, not enough people are hearing about it and learning about it.

  102. #106 by rey arceo on April 22, 2010 - 1:05 am

    here in the philippines pigeon racing is always getting excited especially when racing season comes close.a lot of fancier prepare their pigeon on tip top shape not just for the money but bacause of fame,when u always win you’ll become famous in the pigeon racing world.

  103. #107 by Karim on April 21, 2010 - 6:00 am

    Hi All .

    I feel pigeon keeping as a whole is on it,s way down due to high cost of everything today and as the working man also is stretched to afford a suitable house to live the sport is literally priced out of being a working man,s sport


  104. #108 by baba on April 17, 2010 - 4:47 am

    hai i am in india and a homerfancier do contact

    Ashok :
    In India pigeon racing is growing…. here we have many clubs which successfully organize race every year… we race from 200km to 1100 km…

  105. #109 by Airbaby on April 9, 2010 - 6:47 pm

    I think the Olympic thing is a great idea along with the other things Tony mentioned….but part of the problem atleast from where i live is all the city codes and ordiances against having pigeons…not everybody can afford or is willing to go live out in the country or small village/town just have a loft of birds. So with more relaxed laws and more expsosure i think the sport will grow.

  106. #110 by Tony Harte on April 8, 2010 - 2:48 am

    Hi, I am from the Uk but now living in Malta with my Filipino wife. Pigeon racing today is much more expensive and competitors have larger and larger lofts with all the most expensive equipment, etc. In the UK, the new houses that are being built are just too small to accomodate a pigeon loft. In the UK, it is common for clubs just to have a few members and if one member is really good, the club disbands and refuse to let the very good flyer to join the club and force him/her out of the sport. It should be made a rule that no member/applicant should be refused without good justifiable reason, endorsed by the relevant governing body. In Malta, thankfully there are still a lot of young fanciers joining the sport.Here, if the membership drops to below 25 members then the club has to disband and join forces with the nearest club, now that is a good rule!. Also members are only alowed to send a maximum of ten birds to each race, so no mob flying here. Any birds sent as trainers have to be liberated an hour after the race birds.
    As to how to promote the sport for the future, I think we have to engage with the young & new starters alike. Maybe loaning equipment for the first season and each member providing one young bird?. To engage with local schools and giving them a pigeon in a one loft race, which they can then follow it`s progress. Also with one loft races we should make representations to compete in the Olympics, with pigeons from each country.
    new technology should be used to our advantage, with GPS and cameras, imagine screening a pigeon race on TV, with updates now and then showing where the birds are, the weather conditions, etc and maybe people could gamble on the race and bring greater knowledge and interest within the sport.

  107. #111 by RAY BROWER on April 6, 2010 - 5:12 pm


  108. #112 by stephen on April 6, 2010 - 2:05 pm

    being 28 and havent had pigeons since i was in my early teens,but have always kept a love for them,this year i decided to rejoin the pigeon world,where i live in ireland from what i can remember we had one club in my town when i was 14,but now their is at lest 4 or 5,so i would say it is on the up in my town at least.

  109. #113 by Fred on April 5, 2010 - 7:16 am

    Unfortunately I must categorically state that pigeon racing members are definitely declining. Eg. Since I started racing pigeons 17 years ago there has not been a guy younger than myself joining our club (matter of fact nobody new joined at all) – I am now 55.
    Rising costs regarding food, medicines, transport and quality pigeons will unfortunately make it even more difficult than before.
    I must also mention that I think television is a great contributing factor – kids nowadays watch TV rather than play outside neglecting hobbies such as pigeons etc.
    Forecast – Within 2 decades pigeons will only be raced by the very rich people and guys like me will still keep some just for the pleasure thereof.

  110. #114 by Jim Weiler on April 4, 2010 - 9:09 pm

    I personally believe our sport of raising, caring for, and flying racing pigeons is increasing in popularity and will thrive quite well in the future.Yours in the sport………. Jim Weiler

  111. #115 by Eddie West on March 31, 2010 - 9:45 pm

    Unfortunately I think it is a dieing sport. The main reason is the cost. Figure a loft, feed, medication, club fees, clocks, bands, gas in training. Oh my the list goes on and on. I incourage veteran fliers to breed ybs as a gift to newbees. Discourage them from buying or breeding their own. Then they can focus on the racing without having the worry of breeding at the same time. Get together and help the beginner build a loft. This can be done relatively cheap. Do whatever it takes to help one another. Remember it is a hobby not a professional sport. Some fanciers take it to the extreme. In my experience of three years in a local club, the members often run off the newcomers with bad behavior. I was lucky enough to win a tough 300 in my first ob season and only a couple of members said good job, congrats. or anything. They were more mad than anything that a newbee beat them.My advice, don’t take it so seriously. Its not like you’re going to win 500,000. Not in our club anyway. It started as a hobby and that is what it is suppose to be. Right? The comradery. Keep em flying!

  112. #116 by Cole on March 30, 2010 - 9:13 am

    Being 26 years old and just beginning in the sport, I agree that it is going downhill. Just keeping a few pigeons around the house for fun and enjoyment is fairly inexpensive. But I couldnt believe the investment it takes to get involved in the racing. The price of the electronic clocks our club uses costs 1000 dollars new. I was lucky enough to pick one up used from a club member who was leaving. Not only that but the club dues, hauling fees, electronic bands, and the need for a much bigger loft. All of this to a new flyer is very overwhelming. While it hasnt deterred me yet, people my age that I have told about it and try to get involved are turned off immidiatley when they start asking about the cost. Hence the downhill slope of the sport.

  113. #117 by naudy on March 29, 2010 - 8:10 pm

    I think this sport is not where it should be but is growing at least here in Miami. Some time ago they had 30 members in the pigeon club there are now nearly 70 and many have been withdrawn by the economy so bad but I do think it would be great for some spend some channel on TV Overhead programs and we could increase this sport a little more than a greeting to all

    note: im sorry but my english is not very good looking becuse im cuban but i love racing pingeons

  114. #118 by j. gettings on March 26, 2010 - 6:38 pm






  115. #119 by j. gettings on March 26, 2010 - 5:36 pm

    I have had a pigeon loft of homing pigeons since 1959. My first national convention (AU) was in in 1975. I attended every convention for the next 18 years of the AU. In April of 2009 I moved to Asia. I have traveled in dozens of foreign countries visiting racing pigeon fanciers. This is my comment:
    In the USA the officers of the AU tell their constitutents that the sport is growing. They claim that the membership has increased annually. The facts don’t prove this. Back in 1980 membership as at 11,000 or about. The elected official don’t tell you how many quit the sport. They don’t tell you how many, who have been paying dues for many previous years, have suddenly not paid. They don’t tell you how many vetern fanciers have not paid their dues for two, three, four or more years. They don’t contact these people to get a general consenses of why this person, who has been a pigeon racing fancier for may years suddenly stopped paying dues. The point is if you are going to publish how many new fanciers there are you also have to publish how many quit the sport. Plain and simple, it is a slowly dying hobby. My opinion of the dying hobby, the bickering within the small clubs. If you have one guy who is trying to do it all for the club, your club has a problem and it needs fixing promptly.
    Here in Asia, The Philippine Islands (7,107 islands) there are approximately 3,000 fanciers nation wide. More than 2,000 of them are in the Manila area, the largest city of the Philippines. The sport is growing here. When I first visited The Philippines in 1987 there were about 150 fanciers igeon in Manila. No other city had a club of racing pigeon lofts. In fact I was in the second largest city yesterday, March 26th, there were six lofts in youngbirds racing last season. These people are poor but, there are a few with sufficient income to own property, build a home and live a normal happy life. Most of the poorer fanicers have a 4ftx4ft loft made of simple material. They keep only 5/10 youngbirds to race in youngbird racing. Racing pigeons for them is an exciting event in their world of dispare. They live in crowed neighborhoods, narrow streets with seveal family members living in a crowed area that is only 200sq ft. or smaller. The loft is often on the roof. I visit several recently. I would not go up there for fear of falling thru the floor. Some are three floors up. My point is the hobby here is growing because it offers a relief to the individual who has little else in life to entertain their self. Most have an income of 200 pesos per day. Peso to Dollare currenty is $1/P45.40 It will die here if they do not begin simple racing and not race for money with every race. The clubs require the members to buy club bands which are Example: P2000 for 8 bands. Only these bandes pigeons can enter the races. The club have a set of five races from 50 kilometers to 250 kilometers. The birds that score above 700 kilometers in each race will win prize money. The pigeon has to score in each race above 700 kilometers to be in competiton for the prize money which could be P200,000. I can’t fine a club that just race pigeons with no money band.
    Also in the USA the member of the AU are not being told “exactly” where their dues are being spent. Most don’t know how much was spent on the postal shipping box or the AU computer race program. Most members don’t know that a person is paid annually to help solve problems with this program. How much is this individual paid? How much is paid in legal fees each year? Keeping membership in the dark about where their dues is being spent will also cause a loss of membership. Elected official “must” be precise and explain every dime spent.
    The officers pat each other on the back. This is a disgrace! Get out there and seek the membership who don’t want notority. In 1984 they allowed the “AU Hall of Fame” to be awarded to a person who did everything in his power to keep the Mississippi Valley Combine and the Corn Country Combine apart from flying. This person had a grudge with a member of the Mississippi Valley Combine. The two groups never did compete together. They could have been a great combine with 100 lofts flying in great competition. But this man, with a few of his cronies would not let the item on the agenda. The chairman of the hall of fame award that year was a man who had the onstage of Alheimers Diease and eventually died from it. It is sad that today, as the new members look at the AU yearbook, and view the past “Hall of Fame” they think this person was someone who was great in the sport when in fact he was a disgrace to the sport and the reason he got the award is not because the members voted on it. One man, Jimmy Rusek, the chairman, whom had alheimers, and died from the diease as my father did, gave this man the “AU Hall of Fame” award. Action like this will cause members to stop paying dues. It is just my opinion of the facts from 40 years with the pigeons. Pigeon racing in the USA cannot afford to lose “one” single Fancier with a loft of Pigeons.

  116. #120 by Randy on March 25, 2010 - 6:01 pm

    I think the sport is dying due to there is not enough done to promote it. 99% of people in my area have never even heard of the sport or if they have heard of it they dont understand how or what to do. Plus I think if people helped out the new guys a little more instead of worrying about being beat by them and the new systems out there more. People might stick with it when they do try it. I love racing but I also love being able to sit in my backyard and watching them fly. It is very relaxing to me.

  117. #121 by sknifer21 on March 25, 2010 - 10:48 am

    hey guyz enjoy your hobby(poor man or rich man must be enjoy!!!!

  118. #122 by Anthony on March 23, 2010 - 3:57 pm

    I have been our of the “loop” for a couple of years now, but I do think there will be times when the sport will have it’s up’s & downs, but over all, it has been around from the dawn of history and has no doubt with-stood the true test of time.

    I fell even with today’s electronic age, it will remain strong for a very long time.

  119. #123 by Robert on March 23, 2010 - 10:59 am

    To John Narciso,
    Go to http://www.redroselofts.com/steps_1.html and it will give you a step by step on a small loft to start with and to give you some idea on building one. I am new in starting a loft as well, but my step dad been in pigeon racing for 50 plus years and his dad as well. I am 55 and now I have the time on my hands to give my full attention to the pigeons.

    Yes, Things cost are high so start out small by having others in your club raise your bird and race them to help cut your cost, this might help for a while because some of the bigger lofts will have the room and if your pigeon wins you share the winnings. There are other ways you can save money go in with another person and share the cost. It a matter now days of trust and thats why clubs are a good way to start and learn. My frist action in March of 2010 I have learn a lot, I have bought 4 pigions and place them in another club members loft.

    So if you really love the sport, then you find a way to fly and keep racing your pigeons. Show others, let them hold the pigons, let them see the babies in the nest and take them to a race and or action, Then maybe the sport wont die!

  120. #124 by Carlos on March 22, 2010 - 2:34 pm

    I think its dead only in certain brackets (FINANCIALLY). In my bracket its dead. In MIKE TYSON’S bracket the sport is like the superbowl. YOU FEEL ME….MONEY

  121. #125 by John Narciso on March 19, 2010 - 10:56 am

    I am a newby, so I can’t really give too much comment as of yet. I am still in the “homework” phase of the sport.I do see much concern with the comments posted as to the cost of the hobby and the cost of competing on top of that. It’s always money, isn’t it? I am in the sport of dogs as well, and it’s all about money. I try to not let that hamper my spirit. For me, it’s about your pation(s) and having fun klnowing you are doing the best you can…
    I am still going to build my loft(small) and try to start with the best stock that I can afford and just have fun and do it responsibly…Any loft suggestions or plans for a small loft would be a huge help!!.
    John Narciso-san Jose,Ca.

  122. #126 by Ed Verkleeren on March 19, 2010 - 10:34 am

    No doubt the sport has declined from the glory years of 1940s and 1950s. Many long-time pigeoneers have returned to the big loft in the sky.
    However, I think the decline is nearing rock bottom and that the direction of the sport is very positive. I think there are ideas brewings that will propel the sport to hights well beyond the past glory years. We need a few people to act on some dynamic ideas. I am confident that the sport’s best day are just around the corner…we can make it happen.

  123. #127 by Jay Brooklyn on March 16, 2010 - 9:46 pm

    back in the Early 80s I had a stock back in Brooklyn. And i grow up loving the sport. Today I live in teh Dominican Republic and Trying to Start A Coop so I buy some Homers to Raise. however I am Tryin to Infor Folks out here about Racing they just dont know anything about It !!!

  124. #128 by gary villanueva on March 16, 2010 - 1:18 am

    Here in Hawaii, especially because we’re so far from the mainland(US continent), we must get more involved with each other socially as individual fliers, as a club, as sport enthusiasts, and more importantly, as a state. We must show the unions that we are united in Hawaii. I think having a ‘one against the world’ mentality must come to an end over here. Let’s help and share knowledge willingly. Show the ALOHA in other words

  125. #129 by gary villanueva on March 16, 2010 - 12:44 am

    Although, in my opinion, the current state of pigeon racing is doing WELL, a lot more could be done when it comes to public awareness. Believe me, if I had the means to, I would. One idea, for example, is on the Animal Planet channel, I’m sure you’ve watched the ‘Big Cat Diary’ series. Perhaps, ‘Racing Pigeon Diaries’ huh? Or a segment in the ‘Modern Marvels’ series? Well, I’m sure you know where I’m going with this. And on the more televised networks, such as ESPN, ABC, CBS, and NBC, millions of viewers all over the world sit in front of their huge flat screen monitors anticipating the running of the infamous ‘Kentucky Derby’ with the millions of dollars at stake. Isn’t it the same as what we experience in any race? The network producers wouldn’t listen a word I say. However, a producer may listen if someone from an organization of significance such as the IF, ARPU, or RP Digest said something of the nature. Hmmmmm? Something to think about. Money talks when it comes to all these networks. And I know money can be made when it comes to racing pigeons no matter what angle. Let’s go with this for now, even though I may have a few more far fetched ideas. ALOHA!

  126. #130 by gary villanueva on March 15, 2010 - 11:52 pm

    I’ve been interested in pigeons when I first saw my neighbor’s racing pigeons flying above our house. I was about 10yrs old, early 1970s. Then I got more intrigued with these amazing birds when my two older brothers started raising a pair of homers. A few years later this pair grew into a flock. My brothers lost interest so I tried to persuade my dad not to get rid of the birds but failed. But, I told myself if my brothers could have pigeons, so can I. You see, back then, some 25-35yrs ago, there were no video games or internet to keep a kid like me occupied. So, my interest of pigeons grew into somewhat of a passion. Finally, I fell in love with these magnificent birds when I got my own pigeons to raise. Later, I was mentored into the sport of Racing Pigeons by my neighbor. In short, I have come up short as far as being competitive in the sport of racing pigeons. I’ve tried it two separate times. And I will keep trying until I die. This much I know. The point I am trying to get across is, at least, experience in one form or another, this centuries old amazing sport of ours and YOU WILL BE IN AWE! SO, THIS IS WHY I SAY IN CONFIDENCE, the current state of pigeon racing is doing well!!

  127. #131 by Spencer Fallon on March 15, 2010 - 4:22 pm

    I had pigeons when i was 14.When i turned 50 i started up again. It does cost a bit of money,but i do it for the enjoyment.I think the sport is losing popularity,because young people don’t seem interested.When we where young, we didn’t have much to do. These day’sthere is a lot more for young people to do,and most of them, have never even heard of pigeon racing.Which is sad, because it is such a great sport!

  128. #132 by Greg Benson on March 14, 2010 - 10:10 pm

    I think the sport of pigeon racing is in good condition at least here in Australia. Yes feed is costly and medication is also costly,the price of the birds can be very high but what other sport is not costly – golf, fishing,football, model planes and cars all cost money. But it is the thrill of waiting for those birds to come home through all the weather and the predators that gives me the greatest pleasure, so lets not forget that it is the birds and the love of the birds that keeps us going.

  129. #133 by Bill Lind on March 14, 2010 - 9:53 am

    I live in the midwest and see the sport as dying. The young folks just are not interested. There lives are so busy trying to make a living and the middle class jobs have left the country. This leaves the older generations to start a hobbie with very little exposure to them to get into the pigeon sport. I have had pigeons for 50 years now and find it difficult to interest older folks into a new adventure. There is so much enjoyment in the back yard just whatching them fly let alone the comradery and competition on race weekends.

  130. #134 by ARTEM on March 14, 2010 - 5:36 am

    In my opinion racing pigeon it is an art.
    My pigeons ar not same as your pigeons are complitly difrent.

  131. #135 by John Stelling on March 13, 2010 - 9:10 pm

    I think the sport is hanging on. I know there are not that many really interested in OB anymore, it all leaning toward YB, one loft races and flying a young bird team you don’t have to worry about all the grownup stuff anymore, laying, driving, nesting, etc. People are really interested in the one loft races/classic….So I think as long as the one loft races continue to hold a steady grip, people will still want to compete.

  132. #136 by Melvin Knight on March 13, 2010 - 4:50 pm

    My opinion is that the sport of racing pigeons is defianately on the decline. Young people do not show or have the same general interests in pigeons as did the school age children of my era. Young people today have other interests, ie computers and the digital games related to that technology. Children today are not interested in out door activities sports or nature related as they did when I was a kid. Its to bad that times have changed.

    Mel Knight

  133. #137 by Ron Osgood on March 13, 2010 - 9:01 am

    We need to advertise our sport. Get it out to the public. Most people you talk to have never heard of pigeon racing. Our club is advertising on restaurant place mats “Come fly with us” some members go to county fairs or schools and give presentations. I leave my pigeon magazines at doctors offices, barber shops. I to wonder whats it’s going to be like 15 years from now. Will we have a club? Will the one loft and special races take over? Even our own pigeon magazines print articles about what’s happening over seas and very little of what’s going on in the U.S. Accountability to what happens to our sport lies with us. Either we do something positive or watch it go under.

  134. #138 by Darrel Koller on March 11, 2010 - 5:03 pm

    In my part of Canada, the sport appears to be impacted by 2 factors:

    First, there is a definite shift towards single loft races due to increases in prize money payouts, less work and expense, and a sense that these races are fairer to all involved–the flight distance is the same for all birds, the feed and health programs are singularly applied, training is equally implemented, etc. Most racing lofts are therefore changing their breeding programs towards more short distance, speed birds than long distance racers.

    Secondly, there appears to be significant bickering within Clubs which makes even inviting a possible new member difficult and embarassing. The most complex and highly debated topic is always “flight distance”—this issue has done more to divide clubs and members than anything else. “Winning” has replaced the ideals of “Sport”, love and enjoyment of the bird, respect for it’s natural strengths and abilities.

  135. #139 by Frank Usry on March 11, 2010 - 9:45 am

    I’ve been out of it for many years. My middle son and I raised homers for a long time. It was a good hobby for him. It kept him out of trouble during his teens and he stayed in the hobby until he died 8 years ago, at age 37. When his friends were messing with drugs and getting into mischief he would be in our loft taking care of his birds. He made pets out of his birds and had most of them named. I think kids today would also love the hobby if they had access to it and could see some good examples, and visit some lofts. I’m 69 years old and I want to get back into it again. I don’t know anyone in it at present.

  136. #140 by ronaldo on March 9, 2010 - 9:09 am

    yes,may be in USA pigeon racing is dying,but my friends go to a country like egypt for example,still very big thing more than you can immagne.i grow up around it,here in the states you have problems with neighbours calling the city on you or telling you pigeons have disease.

  137. #141 by rick on March 7, 2010 - 3:30 pm

    I agree the sport is shrinking cost of fuel feed and the time.And lets face it people want a pay back quickly they want to win right away.If they don’t they move on to somthing eles.I’ve been flying for 20 years and yes I have won a few but not many I just like to fly the birds.I have found that mixing your own feed helps cut down the cost and lets face it most feed makers don’t fly pigeons so how do they know whats good for them? but you should.and as far as sport I myself think if the kids i have chased away from loft.that may have had a intrest.

  138. #142 by cuan mulqueeny on March 6, 2010 - 6:57 pm

    i race in south africa. i think the sport is dying because certain people seem to think it is their personal game. i have seen some young people trying to come into the sport only to get treated badly. they leave soon after. there is not much mentoring and lets be honest a 18 year old wont like getting hammered in the result sheet every week

  139. #143 by eltorro on March 5, 2010 - 6:46 am

    I think that l we continue in l evolution of the race of the carrier pigeon, without these races(shopping), this race n would have more reasons d to exist, no???

  140. #144 by chandan on March 5, 2010 - 3:13 am

    hi chris ,
    In some parts of india people are actively participating in pigeon racing but ,i think that the passion for pigeon racing is diminishing.
    now a days people are very much interested in keeping fancy pigeons

  141. #145 by paddy on March 3, 2010 - 1:17 pm

    i think it is starting to fade away with no younger people cum.n in to the sport, it can be expensive for young lads startn off.i think if the sport had a higher profile like horse racing and made people more aware of the pigeons it might change alot of peoples taughts and opions of them and not compare them to the commons in our towns and streets.if there was more documentaries and maybe the one loft races were shown on tv more often it might get more people interested

  142. #146 by Bruce on March 3, 2010 - 12:37 pm

    I think the sport is dying because of the constant bickering among older club members. They only think about what is good for them and not the club or combines. The price for birds has also increased and the qualtiy has gone down because pedigrees sell a bad pigeon. With work now days people no longer have weekends off, and shift changes also contribute to fanciers getting out of the sport.

  143. #147 by mayo recto on March 3, 2010 - 7:21 am

    for me here in the philippines, the racing pigeon is not dying because here in the philppines we hve so many and big racing pigeon club are continue to play and race the pigeon. and i am one of the fancier here in the philippines.

    • #148 by John Stelling on March 13, 2010 - 9:34 pm

      I have seen a few videos about pigeon flying in the Philippines, also noticing that the fanciers there really take an interest in the sport. Filipinos have always like their birds, from cockfighting to racing pigeons, these are a group of people that like anything have to do with competition. I think the sport of racing pigeons will continute to grow in the PI……keep flying an enjoy the sport

  144. #149 by Lynn on March 1, 2010 - 10:45 am

    We had a meeting yesterday and we are down to six flyers. I don’t see a need for the AU or any bureaucracy. Pay dues and train and fly the birds.
    We all have electronic clocks, e-bands, and feed and meds are pricy but the fun is still there.
    Diplomas, trophies and the like are nice but NOT necessary.
    We have a trailer to pull our races and it is SIMPLE and FUN.
    My partner was a youngster when he started and STILL flys.
    The kids of today make choices and there is so much more out there but if introduced properly, set up with clocks, birds and helped with the construction of their loft (Parents must be involved) then the sport can flourish. Give them your BEST BIRDS and watch them have FUN! The best birds are FREE! Look around, share and compete. Help one another…Yours in the sport

    • #150 by mayo recto on March 3, 2010 - 7:32 am

      hi lynn,
      im mayo from philippines, now here in the philippines march 3, 2010 and we have a last final 1 lap race about 500m/m to be fly our bird on march 7, 2010. im not sure if my bird can come home early or on time because she is only 7months old this march. can help me how to make my bird fly in good condition for long distance. i am new in the pigeon race and im happy and excited if we have race or training.
      thank you and waiting for your reply and help. here is my email add mr_sweety95@yahoo.com

  145. #151 by Joseph Tedeschi on February 28, 2010 - 1:55 pm

    I’ve only been flying for five years, but became facinated with racing pigeons as a youngster. I’ve read the comments and have talked to a few old timers in our club and do agree that the sport has declined over the years. I think technology is one reason why. I think many younger people don’t want to take the time, energy and work involved in racing pigeons. It’s easier to win sitting in front of a computer playing a video game. As far as the money involved… I am not a wealthy person by any means, and I am not in this for the money. I was involved in showing dogs for 20 years and flying birds doesn’t come close to the money it takes showing dogs. As far as spending money on birds, I did and found out the my best birds came from the people I fly with, and for the most part were givin to me. As I said, I’m not in this for the money. I do enter money races to support the combine that I fly with….but I fly because I enjoy the birds the competition and the people that I have met while flying racing pigeons. I wish more people would get interested, but for now I will keep trying my best to do that.

  146. #152 by Craig poido on February 26, 2010 - 8:06 pm

    i’m poido from australia ive raced pigeons since my teens i think regarding the world wide decline in our great sport of racing pigeons is due to the current world inflation rate etc rising feed prices not to mention the over use of antibiotics which is a merry go round which a lot of fanciers get stuck on which can cost hundreds of dollars any way thats another story again to all. i hope world wide all the very best for this season being 2010 poido

  147. #153 by Stepenup on February 26, 2010 - 6:11 pm

    don :No, I don’t think the sport is dying but there could be a lot more fliers or members , if the government and local council would acknowledge this as a national sport. If it was not for pigeons in our wars what would our fate be now. Myself , I would love to fly again but our Ontario bylaws has restriction against pigeons in most towns and cities.When l decided to get back into birds,the size of my loft had to have a building permit,Once the ball got rolling , the town questioned what we were building and doing with the building.that was when i found out there was a bylaw on pigeons.so l went to council to override it.they decided if we meet all their requirements and has all our neighbors agree to it ,than they would allow us to have the loft.We were hoping our local pigeon club would back us up ,but they never showed.so how do you get more people interested in pigeons if the local club will not even help.To make a long story short, the council took a vote and we were turned down.As about the rich taking over the sport ,that is not true. they have the money to compete with the best, and to get up and moved to wherever the competitive clubs are.As for the money races,these do great things for the sport and to see who has the best birds,and as far as charity’s go, they raise a lot of money for them.Maybe the pigeon unions and clubs, and the rich fliers should get someone in their back pockets that is in government.What do you think,fellow fliers
    P.S- Thirty years ago ,there were more than a hundred flies in this town, now there are none.

    This is so TRUE, If the little fliers quit and the towns ordinances stop new fliers that would probability be the end of the sport.

  148. #154 by lee on February 26, 2010 - 9:02 am

    i am a new pigeon fancier and will like to say in limpopo South Africa we help each person and make sure we make the sport grow.we have a system were you only need to pay for the qty birds you want to fly.min = 10 and max = no lim.say for example you have new fanciers and thy only want to fly with one team for the year thy only pay for 10 birds.we all said if you need to take one pigeon to race point or 5000 it stays the same cost at the end.so you take the capacity off how meny birds can be loaded ÷ by one team = (10)and that will give you your total to pay for the year.
    so i feel that all of us love the sport and dont want it to die.so by helping one you will help all and like here the sport will grow every year.
    do your homework and invite more youth to the sport and you will see wat dif it makes with grouth in our sport.


  149. #155 by jerry soignier on February 25, 2010 - 11:44 am

    Pigeon racing in US is doomed. New flyers coming into the sport do not nearly keep up with those exiting. One Loft Racing is growth area but needs a continious supply of club racers to feed this growth.

  150. #156 by Robert on February 25, 2010 - 6:30 am

    As a young guy I raised and raced Pigeons…Then lived in Woodbrook, P.O.S..now I reside in Canada,as am retired and spend a lot of time in Trinidad,am thinking of starting to raise pigeons again..Yes,I believe the pigeon hobby is dying because people do not have the space or room for a loft,most of the time folks are buying apartmens,condos etc,plus most Landlords do not want pigeons on the property,I understand that.
    Robert F.

  151. #157 by Anthony on February 24, 2010 - 7:28 pm

    Yes the sport is dying. But we must not give up we must put our heads together and have a forum on ways that we can encourage the sport to the youths because that is where the future of this great sport lies.

  152. #158 by jimm on February 24, 2010 - 9:36 am

    yes its true that the sport is slowly dying, the same faces dominates the races. maybe because for some people who already knows how to race, they don’t teach those who don’t know. that is why some quit the sport because of straight losses and flunk performance in the races. maybe to help this sport to still survive longer, continuing forums and educational services should be rendered by those who top and win races. maybe it will work,
    but if asking the condition in our country, Philippines. i feel bad because this sport is not that famous that for some they still consider the sport as for kids only. and also in our country its very expensive to join clubs, because primarily, pigeon lovers here are after of the money not with the real spirit of the sport.

  153. #159 by mike on February 22, 2010 - 5:55 am

    there is a definate decline in the pigeon sport we see this year after year,the obvious reason is you cannot get young fanciers interrested, in my club the average membership age is 60. as for a novice to start up the cost is so prohibitive, ie loft,clock,baskets,pigeons,drinkers,feeders,medics,the list goes on.a large number of fanciers have left the sport simply because they could no longer put up with the raptors,to have a nice kit of youngsters flying just to have the peregrine scatter them the four corners of the globe.{definately about time something was done about them}.every year you see more & more one loft races crop up i don’t think this helps,as it may be taking potential fanciers away, as it’s cheaper to buy 6 pigeons enter them to race,no need to purchase loft or sundries, and someone else does all the work.anyway that’s a bit off my chest,enjoy your birds…

  154. #160 by Derrall Avery on February 21, 2010 - 8:11 pm


  155. #161 by joe kelly. on February 20, 2010 - 4:44 pm

    my commants are the same as most fanciers. first we charge to much money for pigeons for young people cant afford and most of us are dishonest when we give new
    fanciers some pigeons that are not good enought for themselves so they make a big deel given them to young fanciers starting their pigeon hobby. this is not right in
    our hobby–if we are to keep this great hobby into the future alive we have to wake
    up to this fact by helping new people to enjoy our hobby also helping them to feed and care for their birds.–the feds and clubs seem to be able to charge what they like with so many people not working in theese times all of us fanciers should wake up to theese facts or we will not be racing pigeons in the future–joe kelly.

  156. #162 by Edison on February 20, 2010 - 2:45 am

    I think the number of pigeon flayers is declining due to cost and high unemployment in the US, also 99% of the subdivisions will not allow you to have a pigeon loft in your back yard.

  157. #163 by Mohammed Ismail on February 18, 2010 - 12:51 pm

    Pigeon racing is a sport which does not decline in any individual unless he knows what racing pigeon is and how to race them. I agree, as many people say it is a very expensive sport, but I enjoy a lot being with them, I love the way they grow and fly. I think if a person likes to race pigeon for a hobby and as a sport, surely the sport will not die for him. If you think you are learning about racing pigeons every day then I am sure people can continue this hobby even by keeping a couple of pairs and racing them without spending much money on them.

  158. #164 by Homero LLerena on February 17, 2010 - 9:18 pm

    Primero dar gracias a Chirs por su ayuda, mi opinion es que a muchos palomeros adoran este deporte, pero el problema de la economia es lo que esta afectando este deporte, y muchos lo abandonan para siempre, otro gran problema es la falta de una verdadera informacion colombofila donde se pueda confiar al 100 %, muchos no logran tener buenos sistemas y conocimientos, y al final se decepcionan y se van del deporte, muchos tampoco tienen el dinero para comprar buenos reproductores y le regalan palomas de desecho, y al final los resultados son malos y la deseccion es frustrante y se retiran del deporte, saludos Homero LLerena.

    • #165 by Derrall Avery on February 21, 2010 - 8:21 pm


  159. #166 by Chris on February 16, 2010 - 4:14 pm

    I believe that the future of the sport is bright and here is why. Pigeon racing has not even begun to scratch the surface of what is possible for the sport. People just need to think outside the box. Is the general public going to take an interest in something when the vast majority of people do not even know it exists? Pigeon racing is going to grow in the future as technology catches up with the sport. The inevitable progression of the sport is to be able to track the birds progress. This technology already exists but its application in the sport of pigeon racing is probably five years out. I want you to imagine the implications of being able to see where your birds are on the computer screen. Now imagine the implications of everyone else being able to see it. The economy stinks but for those who think outside of this box, racing pigeons can be a huge asset. Most clubs have some sort of a program to help beginners and let’s be honest, does pedigree really matter when it comes down to picking a winner. How many people have purchased top of the line pigeons based on pedigree and ended up with a bunch of junk. Take care of your pigeons and they will love you. If they love you, they will work their heart out to get home to you. Pigeon feed is a part of taking care of your birds. The fewer birds you have in some cases, the better off you are and the better off your birds are in the loft. This sport will be bigger than ever in ten years because someone is going to use their brain to figure out a way to translate the love for the sport into a format the general public will understand and appreciate. When the public becomes aware of the sport, more dollars will flow into the sport and when GPS bands become a reality, it’s all over. Imagine being able to legally bet on birds like you do horses. Think about a giant screen in a casino and on sports betting websites. If you have pigeons now, stick around and watch what happens in the next several years. Start a blog just like this one by visiting my website and let everyone know about your love for the sport…

    • #167 by Chris on February 16, 2010 - 4:24 pm

      Chris :
      I believe that the future of the sport is bright and here is why. Pigeon racing has not even begun to scratch the surface of what is possible for the sport. People just need to think outside the box. Is the general public going to take an interest in something when the vast majority of people do not even know it exists? Pigeon racing is going to grow in the future as technology catches up with the sport. The inevitable progression of the sport is to be able to track the birds progress. This technology already exists but its application in the sport of pigeon racing is probably five years out. I want you to imagine the implications of being able to see where your birds are on the computer screen. Now imagine the implications of everyone else being able to see it. The economy stinks but for those who think outside of this box, racing pigeons can be a huge asset. Most clubs have some sort of a program to help beginners and let’s be honest, does pedigree really matter when it comes down to picking a winner. How many people have purchased top of the line pigeons based on pedigree and ended up with a bunch of junk. Take care of your pigeons and they will love you. If they love you, they will work their heart out to get home to you. Pigeon feed is a part of taking care of your birds. The fewer birds you have in some cases, the better off you are and the better off your birds are in the loft. This sport will be bigger than ever in ten years because someone is going to use their brain to figure out a way to translate the love for the sport into a format the general public will understand and appreciate. When the public becomes aware of the sport, more dollars will flow into the sport and when GPS bands become a reality, it’s all over. Imagine being able to legally bet on birds like you do horses. Think about a giant screen in a casino and on sports betting websites. If you have pigeons now, stick around and watch what happens in the next several years. Start a blog just like this one by visiting my website and let everyone know about your love for the sport…

      By the way, for those who think the sport is too money driven. Money is going to be what saves the sport. The pigeon racing niche is too small and there are too few players to stimulate good competition. As it grows, there will be more options available and the love of the sport as a hobby will increase. People do money races because they want to stay active in the sport with zero loss. This is the reality of free enterprise and the economy. Be a little bit more business minded about getting other people into the sport and as more revenue is generated, more clubs will pop up and more focus will be placed on the sport as a hobby. Right now people in the sport need to focus on generating even more money and more exposure, not less…

  160. #168 by Clifton on February 16, 2010 - 2:20 pm

    Here in Malta there are a lot of people that were with pigeons and now they are not because of the econimic situation is not good and because it is an expensive sport. But there are other people that are becoming pigeon fanciers. Since I was a child I was a pigeon fancier and I will still be no matter what heppen. Here in Malta as to take the account that we are a small island there are 25 clubs with 1,800 members.

  161. #169 by baba on February 16, 2010 - 10:17 am

    in india thats were i live homer racing is not so grand as other countries paucity of information and a lot of confusion prevails for the newcomers

  162. #170 by thomas on February 16, 2010 - 6:41 am

    I almost can not afford to race pigeons. I am a working man with the normal bills- car payment, mortgage, insurance etc… This bird racing is expensive. The feed medicine, the clock, club dues, race fees, AU dues, bands, crazy amount of fuel for training,the price of buying pigeons, and more. How do you get new guys involved? I tell guys right up front, this sport will consume your time and resources so make sure you like it before you jump in too deep. My suggestion is: the club should limit the number of birds shipped in a race to 10. This way a guy can afford to race with a small loft with just a few pigeons. He would have a chance with shipping 5 or 6 good pigeons.

  163. #171 by Paul Caruso on February 12, 2010 - 11:11 pm

    Foreveryone in the US, contact AU and have them send you info on how to get new flyers, our club did and gained two senior and one junior the first mo. that we used their info, we can set on our butts and do nothing then the sport will die. we need to make the public aware that we are here , you will be surprised at what we can do with a some effort.

  164. #172 by johnny164 on February 10, 2010 - 6:57 pm

    yes the youg do not like pigeon my son is 19 and he as a lot of mates there are 2 that like the pigeon and i said they could have some of the youg this year but there mum and dad said they are flying rats and you can get desec from them i think now days a lot more people think this than say 20 years ago sad my wife did not want me to get them she said we would get mice i have had them 3years and no mice ya ya

  165. #173 by Mike on February 8, 2010 - 1:18 pm

    Most everyone has made good points about the status of the pigeon sport. I would like to add that yes, we need to expose the younger people to the sport as a sort of an inoculation. As they grow up and are busy with college, jobs and family they may not have the time for the sport, but when they get closer to retirement the old racing pigeon bug can reel them back in. For this reason I feel we should market our sport to both the very young and the nearing retirement individuals. Yes, the young people have many easy distractions today, but that is a parent’s job to provide responsible developmental type activities. As far as the costs are involved this is not an issue as compared to any other common activities of our children today. Now time is something else again. To compete and care for racing pigeons properly takes a lot more time than kids or their parents want to expend today. Everything is instant gratification and not the journey to a goal.
    Another point I would like to make is the loss of a number of older fanciers and not by them passing away either. This is due (in Europe as well) to the fact that to win today one has to be progressive and adapt to newer proven methods. Not too long ago a “pigeon keeper” could win a race or two by just having well bred pigeons “on their day”. Well, today those birds have to be ready and at their optimum performance “on your day” to win. This has discouraged many of the old timers into thinking the sport isn’t fun anymore. In some ways this is true, but that is always the case when an amateur contest is turning into a professional sport.

  166. #174 by adri strauss on February 8, 2010 - 5:15 am


  167. #175 by Camille on February 7, 2010 - 2:42 pm

    Here in the Montreal area (Quebec, Canada), the sport is in a major decline. This decline is not due to the cost of keeping pigeons. It seems that the younger generation does not wnat to be tied up every day like we are with pigeons. With golf they take their clubs and go have fun. When they come back they store them without having anything to do until the next time. With pigeons it is every day even when there is no race. We like pigeons but even in winter time it is a burden without much pleasure. But we still love it. It seems that there is not much solution to sell our sport to the younger generation as they have a lot of choice for their hobby. Moreover, as the number of fanciers is low, it is unlikely that the youth came come in contact with our sport. I made several presentations on tv. We see an immediate interest but no desire to try it. On top of it, we start to have a structural problem as many cities forbid to build a loft or to keep pigeons. Presently we start to see a change of mentality following the actual financial crisis. Furtunately, there is still anough fanatic pigeon fanciers to maintain the flame burning. I saw a major change between 1960 and 2010. Even the weather is also a problem which discourages the good fanciers. I am still optimistic anyhow.

  168. #176 by terry on February 3, 2010 - 6:57 pm

    After a 20 yr gap I am finally flying pigeons again, and what I see is not people enjoying the sport of flying our beloved birds, but money races.What ever happened to just enjoying the sport for what it is,a fun hobbie. I like nothing better than watching my birds come home from a race at break neck speed, back wing and land on the board like a CHAMPION.It seems like most are more concernrd about the futurity races and how much they can win, nothing about the bird it seems.I understand the cost complaint, so cut down the amount of birds you have………..a no brainer if you ask me.If the flyers overseas can fly with 5-10 entries VS 15,000 birds why can’t we do the same. You don’t need a 100-200 bird YB team, or the same in OB’s to win if you have good birds and manage them correctly.We are killing ourselves with the quanity of the birds we keep instead of the quality,that makes the hobbie harder instead of fun.Try raising fewer birds and you might just enjoy yourself more….I did.As for the futurities……..I don’t fly them anymore, and enjoy my hobbie an birds that much more.

  169. #177 by Tony P on February 3, 2010 - 12:10 pm

    I’m making a return after an almost 10 year “sabatical”. Where I previously participated, the sport was becomming far too commercialised with way too much money at stake. The result was “win at almost any cost”. Pigeon racing was a great SPORT when I satrted some 50 years ago but declined to become too professionalised and the backbones of the sport drifted away.
    Where I now live very little of this commercialised professionalism exists. This is great! Due to ever increasing fuel costs, birdages per race have been reduced to 15 per member, with alternate options of 10 and even 5, at the fancier’s choice. Lower birdage = lower costs as well as a better ability to concentrate on breeding fewer but better pigeons. No more “shotgun” approach, breeding great numbers in the hope of possibly producing a winner. Prize monies are pretty low but this is also a good development – the greed factor has been removed and those members that remain are true pigeon fanciers. The best result of these developments has been the return to the sport of many genuine fanciers that left for similar reasons to mine. WE have a race which allows the general public to be involved as well. Tickets are sold and each person (member of the public) has the opportunity of drawing a pigeon that will participate in a race the following season. The available prizes are split 33% each to the ticket holder, a preselected charity and the breeder of the pigeon. Works great and publicises the sport in our area in a very positive way.
    By the way I live in South Africa, home of the Sun City Million Dollar race. My attitude toward this race is that it is (mostly) good for the sport. Sounds a bit contradictory, but the SCMDPR provides the opportunity for those that want to compete for the money as well as those that want to compete for the glory (provided they can afford it)with the possibillty of syndicating, allowing wider spread participation. I will compete once I have established my team and have sorted the wheat from the chaff.

  170. #178 by steven giles on February 1, 2010 - 12:21 pm

    In the short time i have been flying,I have seen just as many members come into the sport as well as as leave,that is on club level as well as fed level.
    So to say the sport is on the up or down is a catch 42! But what i will say is that we need more publicity about the sport This is to keep the young or elder generation coming into the sport.

  171. #179 by michael tomczak on January 31, 2010 - 6:55 pm

    I have been involved in the sport for ths past 20 years. First of all when I was a rooky nobody told me I was getting into a sport that was unfair. Second none of the senior members in my organization offered me any advice or set me up with quality stock. The only thing I received was strange looks those that pigeons give one another when a new bird is introduced to the loft. When I beat the well seasoned competition mid way in my first Y.B. season,the looks stopped isolation took it’s place. I have served in all aspects of the political arena in regarsd to the sport locally. I have travelled overseas only to witness the same. You ask if the sport is dying? It is because of pride and selfishness. I witnessed my own organization recently split over a botched money race that should have never taken place because of faulty clock settings. So much for tecnology. We can’t blame affordability because we have control over our race schedules,shipping with other clubs or combines. Last but not lease if we don’t get rid of our selfcenterness the sport will experience a slow death.

  172. #180 by Justin on January 31, 2010 - 2:12 pm

    I just got into the sport again after 25 years. Prices on everything when up. Pigeons are very expensive. But you have some clubs that will give you some decent birds. I remember there where coops everywhere. Alot of the old timers are gone I guess. I think Pigeon racing dropped down and is stuck. What we need to do is promote. Help each other out.

  173. #181 by suneboy on January 29, 2010 - 3:41 pm

    its up to the members them selfs to do somthing about our dieing sport / hobby . the men at the top the committee dont seem to worried about it they just get there pay packet and are happy . we all need to upset the apple cart with someone writing a letter to all clubs with forms with the actions we the racing men want to take for the future [ then post to the committee ] and that is to try and improve and go forward . at the moment we all moan encluding me . thats it im off me soapbox .

  174. #182 by Brown Kant on January 27, 2010 - 9:22 pm

    Hi Chris,

    I’m really impressed with the articles you offer though I’m new to subscribing to Pigeon Racing Pigeons. As far as I know, the racing pigeon sport is very popular in my country Taiwan and will be still growing in other country China too. There is no short cut to be succeed only when you do all the best among the best. Try to find the blind poind and the sport will never die.

  175. #183 by almir on January 27, 2010 - 4:29 pm

    Chris :
    Unfortunatley I personally think pigeon racing is a dying sport. I don’t think that pigeon racing can compete with todays technologies like video games and cell phones.

    Chris, pigeon racing sport is not dying. Decreasing the number of fans, it’s true but it will not die. Compared with the technological progress of course we do not have chances, but we will not falter. Greetings from Bosnia

  176. #184 by Derick on January 25, 2010 - 4:32 am

    Hi fellow fanciers, in my opinion the sport is growing dispite how exspensive the sport has become.the majority of people entering the sport has the money and employing loft managers ect.The cost for pigeons has increased tremendously however for the fancier who cant afford the exspensive pigeons has to increase his/her knowledge …it has been proven time and time again that the best pigeons was gifts to a fellow fancier or simply a pigeon spotted by a knowledgeble fancier, today it’s all about the money but money can’t by knowledge, persistance and where you want to go within the sport, most pigeon medications are all just gimmiks….they are in the bussiness to make profits.

  177. #185 by DJ on January 24, 2010 - 8:55 pm

    hi to all;
    for me this sport is not dying, in fact i should say that it is going bigger and wider, why do I say so because I am a newbie in this sport, and in the philippines, a lot of new fanciers is joining in this sports, it is a very nice hobby and sports. as of now it os all i can say i need to have more experiences and ideas on how to train, and how to keep the birds in condition, maybe you guys can help me in giving me tips or sending me a proper program on what to do to my birds. thanks

  178. #186 by RehanBhatti on January 23, 2010 - 2:41 am

    hi all,

    i don’t think that this sport is dying now a days, just because that there are huge number of well educated persons now involve in this hobby and promote it

    i also know top highflier fanciers around the world like in neepaal, america, canada, iran, pakistan, india etc. who play this hobby not for money even acces thier hobby with honesty and gain experience in it.


  179. #187 by bonn on January 21, 2010 - 7:59 pm

    racing pigeons is very popular sport here in philippines, and i can say that it’s still growing, even the old fanciers passed away, there are new generation that will continue this good sport. have a nice day every one.

  180. #188 by Marcus on January 21, 2010 - 10:48 am

    The sport is definetly on a decline. Due to the price of pigeons,feed,meds,and fuel.Also the interest of the younger generation is on other things and not on
    pigeons. We have to start getting kids more involved some how to keep this hobby going.

  181. #189 by Schalk on January 20, 2010 - 8:37 am

    Here in South Africa the pigeonsport are also declining in numbers. I’m thinking that the huge amounts that’s paid for pigeons are one of the main contributers of placing a lid on the sport (I know that you must spend to get the best) There is however a bealieve that the richer person will be able to buy better pigeons. Furthermore it’s the distances that our union vote in. Know small fancier could compete succesfully with his small team of racers.

  182. #190 by Old Timer on January 19, 2010 - 5:57 pm

    I’ve been out of the pigeon hobby for a while, for a number of reason, but primairly because of a divorce, and not owning my own property. I’ve retired to home life now, and started looking for contacts with local breeders, or club members again. I have been rather shocked at the prices I’ve seen that many breeders are asking for their birds. (on-line)
    It no longer looks like a group hobby, or a fun past time activity that many can share, and enjoy, together. It has turned into a cut throat business, where everyone is is trying to out do everyone else, at any cost, just for the bragging rights, and huge price tag they can put on the few birds they do sell.
    Maybe I’m completely wrong – I hope it’s because the average pigeon fancier, like myself, just doesn’t have the means, or desire, to invest the time and energy to put his birds and info on the net. I haven’t found one CLUB web site as of yet???Maybe that’s where the clubs are falling down – not providing club wide exposure to web surfers like myself. It seems that only those individuals with the budget, and the time, get that kind of exposure, while the majority get left behind to flounder! I know there’s got to be many more breeders out there than I’ve found surfing the net!

  183. #191 by Morne on January 19, 2010 - 1:45 pm

    Well here in Namibia it is also not going as well as it probably should be.In Windhoek which is the capital of Namibia we are only 13 members.In other parts of the country there are only maybe 2 or 3 members in a town.We are struggling to get any sponsors and the guys who are club champ or who wins the only race where there are money to win are the same people because they have the money to spend on expensive breeding material.They are also business owners so they have alot of time to train their pigeons on the road.It is becoming a sport of the rich and not like in the old days where it was a sport for the “poor”.

  184. #192 by Bret on January 18, 2010 - 9:50 pm

    The ARPU says membership is growing once again by about a hundred members a month after years of decline. If that’s true, (and why wouldn’t I believe them?!) it isn’t dying but it’s certainly not setting any records for growth. “Benny’s” comment might be the most accurate in that club racing may be disappearing but one loft racing is growing. I’ve been told the same by a one loft race manager who also actively flies in a club.

    I don’t agree with those who believe costs are the biggest reason many potential flyers stay away. I have worked in the horse industry for the last 15 years, not race horses but show and pleasure horses, and the number of people who are actively involved in events like cutting, reining, team roping, barrel racing and team penning has absolutely skyrocketed in the last 20 years. The costs involved in competing in any of these events make the costs of participating in pigeon racing pale in comparison. I believe city ordinances and most of America and the developed world being three generations removed from the land and livestock are the biggest reasons. Maybe those who are still living rural are all buying horses!

  185. #193 by jojo san mateo on January 18, 2010 - 8:59 pm

    pigeon racing is growing on many countries.

  186. #194 by Arnold on January 15, 2010 - 10:49 am

    Pigeon racing is growing here in the philippines. Few years back when I was a kid it is very had to find a club or someone who shares the same passion for pigeons But now there are several clubs one can join and good strain of birds to buy. I think it is growing because of the high stakes involved the sad part is that someday this sport in the philippines will be like that in Taiwan where it is used in gambling.

  187. #195 by Art2 on January 14, 2010 - 8:54 pm

    Sad but it’s reality. When I was a kid lofts where everywhere. There were 4 lofts in a 3 block area of my home not including ours. Today when I tell people I race pigeons they look at me waiting for the punch line and then ask 20 questions when they realize I’m serious. Lets face it pigeon racing isn’t cheap. Feed costs are up. Gasoline is at a all time high. Training the birds costs more, a feed store that sells a pigeon racing mix may be miles away; for me 45 miles round trip. A new flyer is looking at $300 and up just for a clock and electronic bands and he/she doesn’t even have a loft or pigeons yet. Another thing that’s hurting pigeon racing are the pigeon flyers. In my area most of the flyers have known each other for years and they either like, dislike, or tolerate the other flyers. There are 4 clubs in the area. Each with 15 lofts or less (most 10 or less). We can’t even get a city wide combine going, because this guy won’t fly if that guys racing and all because of something that happened 15 or 20 years ago. Or I don’t want to fly east and every other argument that you can think of. As someone who just arrived, 11 years ago its hard to understand. You don’t have to like someone to beat the pants off of them in a pigeon race and we can race north or west next year. A lot of flyers have forgotten that pigeon racing win or loose is suppose to be fun.

  188. #196 by Franklin Road Flyers on January 13, 2010 - 5:52 am

    I feel that Clubs and Combines need to get the word out about the sport. They need to alocate funds to do so. To show up in schools and promote to the young. I know that I am going to bring this topic up at our next club meeting. Birds Up, Mac McSweeney

  189. #197 by Glen c on January 12, 2010 - 4:40 pm

    I dont think its dying i think it needs more publicity. Ive been out for 4 years because of no loft location but just got back . I Got the Pigeon Racing Bug. But I was at a show/auction a few days ago and saw about 7 or 8 young members infact 1 of them won best in show.Kids dont the how fun it is until they do it so we need to in my opinion,Show them its more than scraping perches–Glen

  190. #198 by eddy on January 12, 2010 - 1:19 pm

    i think any body like myself will never let it dye out racing pigeons are a great hobbie to train chicks to fly home is just the best feeling im not in for the big prize money or to buy a pigeon for hudreds u can get just much enjoyment out of a bird for a few pound its all about waiting for ur bird to fly home or in the breeding season looking to see what colours or markings they have no house should be without a racig pigeon

  191. #199 by Anthony Kue on January 10, 2010 - 11:11 pm

    Well, I think and know for sure that it is dying, and still trying to survive. Because it seem as though, therea’s not that much people into pigeon’s or bird’s these day’s… And yeah I am new into this sport, and like very much! And yes, this sport or hobby does take alot of time and money, but I put 110 percent into it, even though I am handicapped now. Sad but true…

  192. #200 by Jaco Haasbroek on January 10, 2010 - 3:25 am

    I am new to pigeons, so I am not totally sure. I sure hope that people’s love for pigeons can make this sport or hobby stay alife.

  193. #201 by Emad Ghaly on January 9, 2010 - 4:21 pm

    I think racing pigeon is a dying sport.Not much people love pigeons like us.On the top of that,it needs time and money.

  194. #202 by Ken Kobus on January 9, 2010 - 7:36 am

    Pigeon racing is rapidly getting out of reach. In my own case total travel for shipping and knockoff is 200 miles each week, not including training miles. Feed runs are 100 miles round trip every 2 weeks. Electronic timers are a godsend allowing family activities during racing, but costly. Feed and meds including shots have doubled. Club members are immature, try every angle to their advantage and make unhealthy environments to promote the sport. Racing is a game, not a serious lifelong quest to win at all costs. In conclusion the sport is losing ground. Cities have banned pigeons and have ordinances making it difficult to keep them.

  195. #203 by tommski on January 9, 2010 - 6:53 am

    here in the philippines racing pigeon is fast growing sports many club are forming in different provinces not only in greater manila. one that prohibit the fancier for further pursuing the sports is money , the cost of good pigeons, vitamins etc. the more you get involve in the sports is the more you want to buy champion or good bloodlines which will cost you money. Here in the Philippines which is a third world countries many fancier does not have that strong purchasing power.

    To cut my cost on expenses I just keep a couple of good birds and sell the ones I don’t need.

    I hope clubs will conduct discussion regarding cost cutting measures.

  196. #204 by Robert on January 7, 2010 - 11:46 pm

    The sport is holding its own or growing slightly at present. What the sport needs is more promotion, both at the local level and the national level. Currently, the AU is doing a good job in sport promotion, but we need even more. At the local level, we need to put up posters of our hobby at the local feed stores and give our old Racing Pigeon Digest’s to the library, doctors and dentist offices, etc. Put our hobby out front where more people can learn what a great hobby we enjoy. Give talks on the hobby at 4-H, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, FFA, Kiwanis, Lions Clubs, etc meetings. The more we promote the hobby, the more it will grow.

    • #205 by tommski on January 9, 2010 - 6:55 am

      that a good idea man !

  197. #206 by George Bosma on January 7, 2010 - 12:32 am

    I don’t think pigeon racing is growing or shrinking, I think it is holding it’s own. As far as birds being to expensive, that is not true some of the best birds I own were gifts or free. I got into this when I started training a pointing dog and it was sugested that I have my own pigeons. I was given old birds that were being removed from someones race team as well as young birds off some of his best pairs. Later I got a call asking if I wanted to race and that the club had a clock I could buy Unikon for $450 and it came with about 50 bands. I have been able to aquire grandchildren of Jannsens Star Pair, Inbred Gaby witenbuik bred directly off the imports, as well as children bred off Ganus birds never paying more than $100 for any of these. I have been to many club auctions where birds from top lofts in the country sell for as little as $35.
    As far as club costs go I have not paid a penny in to my club since I Joined, they pay my AU dues, get me bands and ship my birds. I do however have to drive races now and then with fuel costs out of my pocket, for wich I am credited. Our club races for fun only and bragging rights.
    Some one mentioned no one will tell them the secrets to racing pigeons. abreviated it is KISS. All one needs is healthy birds that are motivated to get home. Not all pigeons are winners, but their are more good pigeons out there then there are good Handlers. Always ask yourself what could I have done to improve the birds condition. Do not over medicate, medicines pull your birds down, think of your birds as an athlete, they don’t take medicines to stay healthy. The miracle products out there are people trying to make a buck. I use Yogurt for a probiotic, Apple cider vinegar, once a week to control coxi, and keep clean fresh water in front of them and never over crowd.

  198. #207 by joshua on January 5, 2010 - 3:28 pm

    i think pigr=eon racing is growing but very slow i think it is growing because look at me i am only 13 but i am in racing have not done my first race yet but just breeding my future winners i will mabey start to race this year and also in another way the sport is dying out of all the clubs i know of only my club has racing for juniors thats why we must incourage the sport…

    thanx bye

  199. #208 by Ahmad As-Siddiq on January 4, 2010 - 2:32 pm

    I am from the Caribbean island of Trinidad and Tobago. Here, we have over 200 fanciers, active and inactive. I race with the Arima Racing Pigeon Club. We have a membership of over forty fanciers. Many of our pigeons are imported form countries like the USA, UK, Holland & Belgium. Apart from the predatory problem of the hawks, we race from early as February to October without external problems. Because of the size of our island, we mainly do sprinting with our birds. To get any distance over 90 miles, we have to send our birds accross the water to nearby countries like Grenada and St. Vincent. From my perspective in T &T, the sport appears to be growing at a steady pace. Your in sport, Ahmad

  200. #209 by Benny on January 4, 2010 - 9:04 am

    I believe that traditional pigeon racing is declining while one loft racing is growing. I also believe that racing pigeons are continuing to evolve into birds more and more capable of the tasks.What seems to be the hardest thing is for a person to determine what a really good bird is based on his results compared to another bird with entirely different racing conditions.

  201. #210 by Hugh Usry on January 1, 2010 - 1:32 pm

    the love of money ,not excepting the fack that other lofts can win races, and not willing to change, for the good of all in the club . Is the reason for the down fall of clubs in the csra.

  202. #211 by campos family loft on January 1, 2010 - 11:05 am

    it’s true as to what mr. greg s. said the racing pigeon sport in the philippines is still growing.many pigeon clubs are being established in different areas in the metro and also in the provinces.

    good day to everybody and enjoy our pigeon sport!

  203. #212 by Don Campbell on December 31, 2009 - 2:39 pm

    Yes the sport is dying in some areas one of the reasons i see is when a veteran flyer that gets beat gets mad because he gave the fancier birds and the old saying is get out the crying towel because hes not really a sportsman. I am glad when a fancier does well with my bird. Help a beginner out and teach him or her to be a sportsman and give off your best. Always look out for who you can help. I have seen men not offer to help a kid in their area out but when I won a big race this man walk up and said see i took fourth, I felt like saying and you are a decrease to the sport only worring about self In 2 yrs back in the sport. I SEE ALOT OF GREED from the SPORT KILLERS

  204. #213 by eric on December 30, 2009 - 2:08 pm

    Here in new zealand its sadly static at best. People are just stunning, the club racing fantastic. the old hands help the new, birds are given or you can buy. My father is the president of the local club, you just have to look into his eyes when he talks about his birds to know its not going to die just yet. if its a passion…it will survive.

  205. #214 by gsaturn loft on December 29, 2009 - 11:08 pm

    Here in the Philippines the number of pigeon fanciers is increasing as well as the pigeon clubs big or small.

    Happy New year! happy flying..

    Greg S.

  206. #215 by terry , area13loft on December 28, 2009 - 7:05 pm

    i dont realy know , i havent raced or join a club yet , but here in ft. wayne, in. i here some guys around here complaine about this and that , but personaly i see it as a rich sport that i want to partisipate in, but realy cant afford ,i got into pigeons for the enjoyment of the animal,i do, in the near future plan on partisipating in one loft races.but most of those are alittle rich. maybe that amonst other pricey reasons the sport is on a decline .like i said i hope the sport is around long enough for my grandson to enjoy.

  207. #216 by terry , area13loft on December 28, 2009 - 5:15 pm

    i hear people mixing honey ,candy with feed . why , wouldnt that add unnessesary sugar levels ?

  208. #217 by terry , area13loft on December 28, 2009 - 4:46 pm

    im not sure i,v only been in the sport a short time ,have noticed most people are very friendly ,and helpful ,imy grandson is 2 yrs. old and loves (his) birds! i hope it lasts long enough he can appreciate thier beauty , and grace terry area13loft

  209. #218 by david rushforth on December 28, 2009 - 8:58 am

    Hard to say really. There are certainly fewer young people involved in the sport and it is quite expensive now to keep going, so it probably is dying off a little bit. In the UK there are still lots of clubs around but it never gets any publicity. It would be a real shmae if it did die off because it’s a fantastic sport to be apart of and i’m still amazed by some of the feats of endurance and courage that a simple pigeon displays.

  210. #219 by dave on December 28, 2009 - 5:16 am

    hi to everyone..
    here in the philippines, pegion racing is still rising. we filipinos love pigeon racing..there more small racing clubs every year…pegion hobby is becoming pegion sports even with those fancier that are not rich..we all know that our hobby’s are depending in our budget in other to give our flying friends good health in order to win..like me i’m just a small time pegion fancier here in our country and i cant buy expensive birds in order to get the best bloodlines but i always give my pegions everything thier need for us to win but maybe my breeds are not the best birds that can give a troupy..so i still trying my best even i dont have the right birds for long distance race..

    maybe you can help me to fullfil my dreams,
    to have a champship troupy with my birds..
    thank to everyone..

  211. #220 by Marius Meburgh on December 27, 2009 - 2:27 pm

    Hi all

    In Johannesburg it is a dying sport.We do not get young intrest and I think todays
    kids are more interested in the computers. The fanciers send there birds to
    Sun City Million Dollar Race and there they have a chance to recope some or all of there money.I think that is the way the sport will go. Afew stock birds that is all
    We need to do something to get pigeon racing on the map

    • #221 by joshua on January 5, 2010 - 3:32 pm

      hi my name is josh i read your comment on pigeon racer and i agree with you i started with pigeons last year and they are good to have i am located in cape town if u ever come down here to race i would like to meet u contact me on 0216972816

      thanx bye

  212. #222 by Hamza on December 26, 2009 - 8:30 pm

    I am not sure what the state of Pigeon Racing is in the USA. I have been out of Pigeons for almost 25 years and am just getting back into them. I was hoping racing is still going strong because I’m definitely interested in racing my birds.
    We’ll see what happens I guess…

  213. #223 by don on December 26, 2009 - 10:26 am

    No, I don’t think the sport is dying but there could be a lot more fliers or members , if the government and local council would acknowledge this as a national sport. If it was not for pigeons in our wars what would our fate be now. Myself , I would love to fly again but our Ontario bylaws has restriction against pigeons in most towns and cities.When l decided to get back into birds,the size of my loft had to have a building permit,Once the ball got rolling , the town questioned what we were building and doing with the building.that was when i found out there was a bylaw on pigeons.so l went to council to override it.they decided if we meet all their requirements and has all our neighbors agree to it ,than they would allow us to have the loft.We were hoping our local pigeon club would back us up ,but they never showed.so how do you get more people interested in pigeons if the local club will not even help.To make a long story short, the council took a vote and we were turned down.As about the rich taking over the sport ,that is not true. they have the money to compete with the best, and to get up and moved to wherever the competitive clubs are.As for the money races,these do great things for the sport and to see who has the best birds,and as far as charity’s go, they raise a lot of money for them.Maybe the pigeon unions and clubs, and the rich fliers should get someone in their back pockets that is in government.What do you think,fellow fliers

    P.S- Thirty years ago ,there were more than a hundred flies in this town, now there are none.

  214. #224 by Roy on December 26, 2009 - 12:36 am

    I do believe there are fewer numbers of pigeon fanciers, and the numbers are dropping at this time in history.
    However, this will pass just as long as we do not let our PASSION for fun die.

    It is up to each one of us to pass on passion! For those of you who fill big money and corporations are controlling our sport then don’t support those who aren’t giving back to help build A fun time for all:-)


  215. #225 by Kenco on December 24, 2009 - 4:33 pm

    Sadly i think it is a dying sport, very few kids of today are willing to put hard work and dedication into any sport.

    We need to target the newly retired persons, that are looking for a new intrest to use up their time.

  216. #226 by Robert Hegarty on December 23, 2009 - 8:41 pm

    Hi Chris, Just to let you know the Racing Pigeon formula you sent me is working fine now and I am quite happy with it. I race my pigeons in Northern Ireland and I would say the sport here is in decline, mainly I think because most of the fanciers are like myself from the older generation. There doesn’t seem to be many young people coming into the sport. I think they are more interested in the things you have already voiced.


  217. #227 by PHILIP BODEN on December 23, 2009 - 4:25 pm


  218. #228 by Paul Gregg on December 23, 2009 - 2:17 pm

    I think in certain areas in the world it is declining , but when you take the like of China its growing at a massive rate which must be good for our sport throughout the world, Its a fantastic sport that brings the millionaire’s and and the man on the street together , and on any given day it makes no difference how much money you have, if you cant motivate, feed right , ect ect your money will never buy you success.

    Peter Dempsey is 100% correct it near seems impossible for fellow fanciers to congratulate their fellow winners, the sportmanship is dieing in our sport and i think that is one of the factors why our sport is dieing.


  219. #229 by peter dempsey on December 18, 2009 - 6:16 pm

    I think its time to ask our selves is the sport dying, or are we as fanciers KILLING the sport< have we forgot how to say well done to the guy that beats us on a regular basis this sport? is IMO the greatest sport in the land and the only thing that will bring it to its knees quickly is us the fanciers? lets all look for the positive side and work toward promoting whats great about pigeon racing
    forget about the backbiting
    and shake the hands of the winners

  220. #230 by darcon loft on December 6, 2009 - 10:37 pm

    bal :
    Not in the Philippines!many clubs are being registered big and small, and there are groups unselfishly helping the newbies and even filipino fanciers who are in abroad are extending help on tips even sending birds which are proven from their
    own clubs abroad.
    This is what the sport bringing it to us which is brotherhood.

    yes bal not in the philippines i think here in our country it is not dying before in year 80’s there is just only few clubs now when i’m back in this hobby i found out that there are small and big clubs now rising but you must be a competitive now in this sports.

    • #231 by tommski on January 9, 2010 - 7:03 am

      and big name fanciers here in the philippines are helping beginner fancier as with my experience when i visited a famous PHA fancier in our area

  221. #232 by MICK ANGWIN on December 6, 2009 - 4:41 pm


  222. #233 by Jeff on December 5, 2009 - 9:04 pm

    Myself, I don’t think the sport of pigeon racing is dieing, like everything else out there, it runs it’s course, slows down then picks back up again, look at the yo yo, skate board, even the small hobby farmers are coming back into the scene.
    It is up to us, the fanciers to make sure the public is aware of our sport.
    I also agree that the cost of pigeons and derby’s have gotten out of hand price wise, when ever there is someone new starting out, most of our club members will pick a top pair from either the stock loft or race team, to give to the person to start out.
    As long as we do our part in promoting our sport, there will always be new people interested in becoming part of it.

  223. #234 by Aamir on December 5, 2009 - 10:16 am

    Pigeon racing hobby is increase day by day in Pakistan.In Bahawal Pur State, Punjab, Pakistan. This State is full of pigeon flying hobby. Here Slow flying pigeon as compare to racing pigeons but colourfull pigeons. In this game one person flying near about 100s pigeons and other also flying 100s of colourfull pigeons. they flying their own home and during flying combine with other flying pigeonms and then seprat on call of the owner

  224. #235 by confederatemule on December 3, 2009 - 7:48 am

    I agree with Uncle, it is all about money. The average person interested in pigeons can not afford to be involved.
    It is not only this sport/hobby, it is any sport/hobby. The wealthy have taken over. A person interested in any sport will not be accepted if he/she can’t appear to be wealthy.
    To be honest, this goes a lot further than sports/hobbies. If you are not wealthy and healthy, try to be a part of anything, school, town meetings, community, even a church [especially a church].
    No show of wealth = no acceptance.


  225. #236 by Jeffrey on November 28, 2009 - 4:56 pm

    I think that is dying.The cost of the food is increasing,but in realty I like the pigeons.I know of some peoples that are leaving this sport for this reasons.

  226. #237 by Dom on November 26, 2009 - 7:19 pm

    I think the pigeon racing sport is dying and in those areas of the United States where the sport is growing it’s only a small percent compared to pigeon racing as a whole. I just finished a study of talking to many fanciers around the country and found out that the general census that the sport is a great one but the prices are driving the little man out of competition.

    How can the little man compete against fanciers who can buy birds for $5000 or more per bird, even though there is no guarantee that that bird will produce a champion but obviously these people have the money to invest in that, and the person who has to work day-in day-out to take care of his family and bills can only afford mediocre birds at best and in some cases if he’s lucky a champion fancier will send him a pair of champion birds.

    In conclusion, I believe this sport can be great in many ways but I think the whole pigeon society must come together and support the effort, because for a young person to get involved in our sport they should not have to break through a brick wall to be competitive and I don’t mean just winning one or two club races. To get these young people interested they must feel that they can excel in all levels of the sport. If Derek Jeter only thought he could be a water boy he would have never had the passion to strive to be the champion that he is today.

    I also believe that the AU and IF should do more national and prime time advertising for our sport then what they are doing now.

    • #238 by juan on March 29, 2010 - 12:08 am

      yes the au needs to do more and the clubs to on adds

  227. #239 by PigeonRacingFan on November 26, 2009 - 4:27 pm

    Hey I just want to thank all who have posted comments so far they are great! We really enjoyed reading all of them.

    and Yes Johan we will get working on some supplement information for you.

    johan botha :

    I enjoy reading the material, it really helps a lot. In South Africa the sport is strong, but there is room for improvement. Just a thought: would it be possible to pulish information regarding vitamin supplements before and during races for both short and long distance racing? We really have a lack of information here in South Africa regarding supplements. Thanks!

    • #240 by waynef on January 21, 2010 - 11:56 am

      Pigeon racing just like all sports is getting very expensive. I recently had to quit work for health reasons, now getting social security. So money is tight.I cannot afford to pay $300.00 and up for the winning blood lines, then pay for feed medications and race entry fees. I have had pigeons since I was 10 years old but never had the funds for racing. Then I got married had kids. The pigeon came and went. After I retired I was give several good racers for breeding, now the only race I have is to see if I can beat them home!!
      Kids now days have their video games, cell phones and hanging out at the mall with their friends. I can’t visit with my grandkids unless I take away the video games. Sad state of affairs the video game business has created!!

  228. #241 by johan botha on November 26, 2009 - 3:02 pm

    I enjoy reading the material, it really helps a lot. In South Africa the sport is strong, but there is room for improvement. Just a thought: would it be possible to pulish information regarding vitamin supplements before and during races for both short and long distance racing? We really have a lack of information here in South Africa regarding supplements. Thanks!

  229. #242 by shihab on November 26, 2009 - 12:22 pm

    i love this sports…in our country its growing……

  230. #243 by Jim van Helden on November 26, 2009 - 12:02 pm

    I think there are actually more pigeon flyers in our area now, compared to when I was a kid. (actual club membes) Still I see how hard it is for many to get started in the sport. It seems that many members don’t have an understanding or just don’t care about the expenses.

    I have found that it is not necessay to road train to the extent that most flyer do.
    Twenty five miles is far enough, but in every direction. Many single and double tosses. We’re educating the birds not training them. They need confidence in themselves. We need to help them develop their natural abilities.

    I don’t buy commerical pigeon feed. I feed whole roasted soy beans. About $11 to $15 per 50 pounds. I buy stove corn. Its clean and dry and runs about $6 for 50 pounds. Barley and milow about $9 to $10 at 50 pounds. I mix according to the specific need of the birds.

  231. #244 by Jes on November 26, 2009 - 9:02 am

    A very nice hobby but too challinging due to excessive money needed for this sport. It is difficult for a novice or beginner to start this sport. I think too that the racing pigeon sport is dying, especially for the working-man class. Only the richest people in the sport can manage.

  232. #245 by chris corbett on November 26, 2009 - 4:41 am

    hi im an irish guy living in holland ,the racing here is goining very good a high standard with races ranging from 90 kilometers to 1400 .i am racing three years and had my first two wins at club level this year .and for my experince i have had some good results in holland.if people would like to contact me then please do to exchange views.ccorbett@casema.nl

  233. #246 by Loft 2968 on November 26, 2009 - 3:41 am

    In Philippines also i’ve seen the clubs grows, what we used here is SMS clocking and only one club here using he high technologiy clocking system but in fairness to them they help the small club through seminars and even selling YB’s at an affordable price. What we do with the YB’s is they becaome our stock birds where we can became our foundation birds in racing. In philippines , a 2 to 4 clubs who raced in same area, what we do is used only one training vehicle so expenses can be minimal and even in actual races. more young people now love to pigeon racing from the age of 8-13 years old thru street racing pigeons. So here in our country you can see lofts mostly top of roof of the house with a size of 4ft X 4ft or even smaller depending on the size of the area availability.

    Yes we should also promote pigeons racing thru schools so the youg generation can appreciate the sports ( computers game can be addicted to young people nad resulted not going to school)not like racing pigeons they go home early and wake up early to see their pigeons.

    Help also to those new in sport so they won’t get disappointed.

  234. #247 by Ashok on November 25, 2009 - 10:58 pm

    In India pigeon racing is growing…. here we have many clubs which successfully organize race every year… we race from 200km to 1100 km…

  235. #248 by bal on November 25, 2009 - 7:42 pm

    Not in the Philippines!many clubs are being registered big and small, and there are groups unselfishly helping the newbies and even filipino fanciers who are in abroad are extending help on tips even sending birds which are proven from their
    own clubs abroad.
    This is what the sport bringing it to us which is brotherhood.

  236. #249 by doug chadwick on November 25, 2009 - 7:22 pm

    In general I think decline is the word of choice. Our own little club is holding it’s own but all around the numbers are shrinking.The costs due to gasoline prices, insurances, mechanic costs, feed prices, all the medications and supplements(due to the new found airborn viruses) are all rising. Lumber prices and house prices are figured in also as young people cannot afford houses with yards anymore. People squawking about keeping pigeons and bylaws to keep the complainers happy are also players in the decline.Simply the sport that used to be able to handle fliers from all walks of life, now is to expensive for common folks to participate in.Computerized clocks and bands that are expensive as heck chase away the young and the retired alike leaving only the fast fading middle class and rich able to competively enjoy the sport anymore. Predators on the increase also adds disappointment and negativity to racing pigeons now, and people cannot justify cost and time spent to fun. Clubhouse bickering and poor sportsmanship is also prevalant now as people seem more transfixed on winning and selling pigeons for big bucks, than just having fun. Derby prices have gone through the roof limiting people that can participate in them also. The darkening system and widowhood systems all in the name of winning, stop or chase people away, who do not have time or room to be able to compete on an even keel anymore, also limiting the amount of people , who are willing to pay and never have a chance of winning. Until fun, ( a long lost resort in this game ) comes back as the most prevalant characteristic of pigeon keeping and racing, I can only see the overall numbers decline. I hope that I am wrong?

    • #250 by Keith Ferdinand in UK on May 18, 2010 - 6:25 pm

      Doug sadly you hit the nail on the head i agree with all you wrote but you must read chris comments above and again i agree with all that he said and that bird dropping in was truely divine intervention.he is right we must stop whining and get up and do something like chris has stated.the road will be hard with plenty of uphill struggles crooked roads and pit holes.but if you think you got it tough let me give you some upliftment.im mid 40’s black racing in a racist area at the bottom of the table all season get little to no help from my club members but bitch bitch bitch.i always smile show them love and share info (sometimes) I learnt all i know about racing pigeons from the internet.my wife bought 6 birds unrung in a farm auction i lost 5 still got the 1 hen smart cookie (lifts bob wire and jumps out to go and fly).A club member gave me 20 birds to start the worst most useless bunch of racers i have ever had to race but i breed a 2nd fed 1st yearling from this rubbish.was going to start a family around this cock bird.went to work then recieved a call from wife that she put ferrets in loft as it was cold and that 1 got out and killed a pigeon.i left work to go home thinking it could kill all pigeons in loft but please not my 24 2nd fed winner.arriving home i raced to the loft only to find 24 dead on it nest on floor ferret escaped lucky for him.i asked wife why she had put ferrets in thier cage in the loft bieng a animal lover she said she thought they were cold and the loft was warm at night.who said love can’t kill.so what am i saying well it’s this i love pigeon racing always wanted to do it and now i am doing it and with all obstacles in my and my birds way will be overcome god willing good luck to all and fight the good fight.

  237. #251 by "NO SWEAT" on November 25, 2009 - 6:19 pm

    What a marvelous sport we have! Forever! Feathered friends and great fanciers! My life has been so enriched because of both! All those times alone in the loft with just the birds. All the troubles of the world somehow banished. And what brotherhood I’ve observed and shared with devoted fanciers. Heitzman told me in his last year that he owed the birds for his long life. They called to him for his attendance on his darkest days. Loftus Green, having a heat attack in his loft after a life of being with them. Our sport has evolved into what it is just as many sports have taken on changes over the years. Even thoroughbred racing is far different from what it once was. I own so many tremendous memories of being with fanciers from all over the nation. Doctor Carbone paid for my wife’s and I first summer in Florida with the YBs I sold him. Gary Stone rescued me from a time of despair when I needed it most. Edna Scifres hated me and over the years we became the best of friends. That kind of turn around makes life. I feel we forget that ours is a sport of a certain brotherhood, an admiration of a bird that we feel stragely attracted to. The sport, whatever its become, has not drifted from that. It sometimes seems that the golden years were all long ago but they are here now. They are what you make them. Your attitude means so much. I forget to be thankful that I can have a single bird, that I am healthy enough to do all I can to watch it go from birth and into its life. Hearing the sounds of a coo, the sounds of wings slicing the air, that 10 year old cock bird that flaps your hand when you reach for his eggs. Our sport has alwaays been unique. Something innocent. Its a personal sport at heart. We all know that. I feel its an exciting time in the sport. More big races to be in tha ever. More real tests for you as a breeder. More communication from all over the world. Better birds over all. Twain said that if it was something that would take him in, then it wasn’t worth joining. I often feel that way. But then, Twain wasn’t a really pigeon man. Blessings.

  238. #252 by PatriotHillLoft on November 25, 2009 - 4:51 pm

    Because of the economy in New York State, a small club cannot exhist with its own clubhouse and property due to the taxes and expenses. Combine this with few members and it spells a recipe for disaster. The only clubs that can survive are the ones who operate out of members’ garages and belong to a financially strong combine that keeps shipping expenses down.

  239. #253 by Chris on November 25, 2009 - 2:10 pm

    I think we have to ask ourselves why it seems the pigeon hobby is in decline in most places? I think it has to do with a lack of interaction (public advertising). Years ago anyone who was interested in animals went to the local fairs and got educated by the local fanciers, often comming away with birds. Today I search the web for such local events and find not even gatherings of fanciers are advertising up comming shows. Nothing or next to it can be found. Those in, “the know” must be forgetting that there are those of us who have never been told. Do a web search on local sports for you kid and you’ll find where to sign up. Search on where pigeon folk hang out or display their birds and NOTHING unless it’s too far or too late. Take for example our local pigeon club. Do a search on “Sudbury Pigeon Racing Club”, good luck finding even a contact number. The internet is a very cheep way for fanciers to gather no matter the distance and the fanciers of the future WILL USE IT! When it comes to pigeons one would only be interested and drawn in because they have seen them, heard about them, or through Divine intervention. Most fanciers, self included, are not overly social, but we are highly adaptive people so while I can not speak for other I can speak for myself and the thoughts floating around in my head have added up to this, “you want folks to know about pigeons… go where they are gathered…bring the birds…teach them! To this ends I have made a new display with two layers. I am hoping to take the birds to as many public events as I can find. I am also hoping to take them to schools. Show them off and do releases. I’ve got my 10 year old daughter working on a simple, “How to care for Pigeons”, phamplet (with pictures she’s drawn). They would be given out to interested kids. I’ve built a website to advertize the wedding release business we’re starting and added to it a messagebaord for all the Fanciers who live in the northern parts of Ontario, Canada, or simular northern climates. Rather than whine about the lack of information out there I figure I aught to be doing somthing about it. Rather than complain about the problems associated the costs we need to find who’s out there and share the costs. Before the phone and the internet folks took the time to actually visit each other. So rather than complain about no one helping why not take the time to do a social call when they are able to accomodate you? Why not start your own pigeon blog? They are simple and normally 100% free. A blog is like an internet diary which others are allowed to read. Put down what you know and add to it once a week so other searching can learn. If you know where races, shows and such are list them on your Pigeon Blog so others can come out on race day with their kids in your area! Wouldn’t that be something!! Put a notice of up comming shows or races up at your local comunnity bulletin boards. (At the post office, super markets or corner store)Your going there anyways!If not hand your wife the notice and a stick pin… 🙂 If you live in colder climates and would like to be part of the solution you can add to the message baord at http://sudburydoves.com/theloftypigeoncoop/index.php ( I hope it’s ok to post that link here) If not please delete the link. But for crying out loud stop comaplaining and start doing SOMETHING… no one wants to join in a dying sport! All complaining does is put more nails in the coffin. You want to sell this sport… put on a smile, beam when you talk to folks, tell them how much your raising pigeons has meant to you. Do that and they’ll want PIGEONS! Most pigeon folk are of the opionon that you either get into pigeons young or not at all. I was in my early 40’s. How did I get hooked? Simple my daughter wanted a pet bird, we had cats so I said, “no”. Tucking her into bed that night she told me she, “I’m going to ask God for a bird.” I said, “Your going over my head eh. Ok we’ll see how that goes for you but we’re not having a bird in the house.” Three days passed and in flew a lost, exhausted, banded, racing pigeon. First time I’d ever seen a banded one. I fed and watered it and even built it a wee box to sit in. I captured it one night and read the band. The owner was located and she said we could keep the bird but eventually she believed it would fly home. Several months later it did. My daughter had her bird and now that I knew we could have one outside I arranged for some young Rollers. She’s had her strain of Rollers ever since. In the process I got hooked! I now have my own flock of white homers and am aiming at using them business wise. My wife has heard so much about pigeons it’s about driving her nuts. I can’t help it, it was Divine intervention! Oh so you want to see the sport grow…. reach the parents through thier kids! Hamsters and budgies and cats an dogs all come and go but there is something about pigeons that never leaves the heart. Maybe it’s that this hobby allows room for those who desire to do something wonderful with their spare time. Like create that perfect cross. Or raise the bar on the quality within their area. Or start a hobby business. You’ve got to admit this is one hobby where you the Fancier are the one in charge and in a world where that is hardly even a choice it sure is a refreshing and creative way to get your own way and reap the rewards! There is nothing like success and with pigeons your efforts can become very personally successful. Chris

  240. #254 by MONTY on November 25, 2009 - 2:06 pm


  241. #255 by Deone Roberts on November 25, 2009 - 1:26 pm

    I hope to present a counterpoint to the perception that the sport is dying or too expensive.

    In the American Racing Pigeon Union, we see an average of 100 new members coming into the sport each month. Member loss is inevitable, considering various life and health issues. With current member loss, the net growth is between 2 and 3 percent each year, and has been that way since the AU began it’s promotion program several years ago.

    Considering the uniqueness of the sport, the fact that an average of 100 new folks come in each month is astounding. Between 1/4 and 1/3 of the new memberships are family memberships. We have also seen an increase in the number of youth racing pigeon programs around the country.

    Clubs have come up with clever solutions to the increasing cost of being in a hobby, and the community of flyers is good to share their tips with others.

    Deone Roberts
    AU Sport Development

  242. #256 by Steve Boldin on November 25, 2009 - 10:56 am

    Pigeon racing used to be about having fun and it included the whole family. Now it is about winning money. It has become to competative. Steve

  243. #257 by Cathy Palovcsik on November 25, 2009 - 9:57 am

    In our area, the sport is dying as the old flyers are dying, the cost of flying keeps rising with feed costs, shipping costs, and training costs, and there are no “young” flyers coming up in the ranks. Where once there were numerous clubs within driving distance now one needs to search for a club. The sport is alive in major metropolitan areas but dying away in rural americal where once so many could enjoy.

  244. #258 by Gavin on November 25, 2009 - 7:41 am

    I think Pigeon Racing has become a rich mans sport. The concern I have is that China is rapidly draining Belgium and Holland of their best pigeons.Their is no limit to what they are prepared to pay for birds,and I dont blame the fanciers for selling at these huge prices.It has become big business.In a year or two all the best birds in the word will only be found in China,then the Chinees will sell back to Europe at twise the price.

  245. #259 by Jack dillon on November 25, 2009 - 6:25 am

    Pigeon Racing seems to be in decline in every part of the developed world, why? The reasons are varied,many of the earlier submissions are accurate, Here in Ireland, pigeon racing is a very popular sport, but also very costly, club membership fee’s, feed, and medication, plus the cost of training, then there is the time given up to maintaining the flock, ie feeding and scraping the loft.Competition is very high in the south road federation and the most successful loft’s are run under partnerships.There is no league for young fanciers or novice’s, they must compete with the older established flier’s who are in affect professionals,many soon become disheartened and leave the sport. The homing union needs to address these issues and become more proactive in promoting the sport,School lectures, on the science and history of pigeon racing might spark an interest with young people, in earlier times there were more fanciers with small backyard lofts who flew pigeons for pleasure, they fed their pigeons mostly on plain corn and didn’t vaccinate or medicate,many of the legendary names, achieved their success in these times.

  246. #260 by Loft 2968 on November 25, 2009 - 4:07 am

    hey, every one, i think is getting bigger from what i’ve seen in clocking website, there are 58 clubs are registered who love race pigeons in the Luzon only, don’t in the visayas and mindanao area. for if you are really love pigeons you don’t have to spend more money, just keep birds which are really goods and you don’t have too many as it will costly you from feeds, vitamins,vaccines etc… racing pigeons is a sports for animal lovers like other animal clubs. for me i’m just only a year old member of the club but from my childhood i really love pigeons wherein we get into street racing without using any technologies but after my college i stop my hobby but for more than 20 years i got back to my hobbies but with a different environment of race pigeons. Now a days it is bloodines, feeding system, vitamins, trainings and loft management but it didin’t cost me lot because i only keep pigeons with a good records and race only around 4-6 pigeons every race so i can manage my loft and resources. im just an ordinary employee working in company but still manage to race pigeons. racing is not about for rich people but i know it is also for middle class people. my suggestion is lets gave information to all clubs in the world and have one mission and vision for racing pigeons. Also help the small clubs in propers way of handling races so cheating can be avoid during race. Only big loft club members are using microchips and the small one are using only via SMS ( we don’t know if there’s a cheating co’z only one website have an access and also the officers of the club ) pardon me if anyone would reacted on my comments.

  247. #261 by richard from holland on November 25, 2009 - 3:36 am

    Here in Holland you see over the years more and more fanciers quite this magnificent hobby. I can imagine why. It takes a lot of your free time. Only the guys and their families who really want it keep their birds. It requires a neat way of planning, holidays, weekend etc. On the other hand focus on particular flights not a whole long season.
    Myself I started after 25 years again having birds as a boy. Our family love the birds and we have no restriction for holidays. My loft is not so much crowed so the time I need to spent is controllable. If you cann’t do it with 20 birds it won’t happen with 100!

  248. #262 by Raggy Tash on November 25, 2009 - 3:21 am

    I think the sport is pricing itself out of the market, it is not anything like it was when I started, about 50 years ago, we flew a few pigeons, didnt need to send 50 or 60 birds each week, we got pigeons for nothing, from older more experianced flyers. Its all money today, and the commitment involved in keeping a large team is too much for the youth of today. I talk about the UK here, cant speak for other countries of course.

  249. #263 by des on November 25, 2009 - 3:13 am

    eveything now is so dear costs are riseing all the time what use to be a poor mans hobby is now a rich mans hobby

  250. #264 by Jes on November 25, 2009 - 2:13 am

    I think that this sport is more & more becoming a hobby for the richer people, it’s a bit difficult for beginners in the sport to try racing pigeons. However this is a very wonderful hobby. Every person have a buget limit that should not be overdue, thus the sport would not become an extra burden instead of a pleasure.

  251. #265 by D.DEVASENAPATHY on November 25, 2009 - 1:42 am

    There is no importance for pigeon race.because prize amount is very less.feeding cost is high day by day.There is no special medicine for racing we must import from other country.No vetenerian for pigeon.No one to encourage this hobby,no one will tell the secret of racing&training ,breeding.Lots of lieing.

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    a bout pigeons thanks for that..i hope get more

  253. #267 by Carlos on November 25, 2009 - 12:20 am

    Pigeon racing cannot compete with the new “hobbies” of young people nowadays. Wi the same amount of money, young people can go buy the latest eletronic gadgets. Also young people are more mobile and the very nature of pigeon racing requires that the fancier stay at home for most of the time.

    In pigeon racing countries like The UK, Belgium, Netherlands, etc. the number of fanciers are not increasing but still the interest is there. In my own country pigeon racing is starting to become popular as young people and even professionals are just discovering the sport. About 10 years ago, there were just a handful of pigeon clubs but today there’s more than a hundred and more are being established.

    • #268 by glen c on August 23, 2010 - 2:29 pm

      what country do you live in ?

    • #269 by ahmud on November 29, 2010 - 3:27 am

      Hello Sir
      I have pigeons i flying evrey day for tow hour they are going three thousand km and coming back now i need the midicine to go Six thousand Or teen thousand km

  254. #270 by Gene Miller on November 24, 2009 - 11:28 pm

    I have been racing pigeons since 1960 when I was ten years old. When I first started I couldn’t travel more than a block in my City and not run into a pigeon loft. This was in a City of over 30,000 people which was a good-sized city in 1960. The local Racing Pigeon Club had about 60 members and grew to its largest size ever in about 1965 with over 70 flyers. This club was formed in 1917 and continues today, but by 1969 there were only 12 members left and it looked like the numbers were going to decline even further. In less than four years our club went from its largest membership number number to almost nonexistance. I wundered then if the sport was dying but I wasn’t going let it happen if I had anything to say about it.

    Back in those days most of flew our birds from small lofts usually about 6 feet by 8 feet located somewhere inconspicuous in our backyards. Our teams of birds were small made up of birds we raised from local stock and road training was fairly limited. It was fairly easy for a flyer to dominate the competition. Things have evolved considerably since then.

    Now days the average loft size is six or seven times what we had in the 60’s. The teams of birds we fly are from expensive imports or other expensive famous well-bred birds. The number of birds we keep is greater. The level of care we give including the knowledge of and variation of medications we give our birds is much more comprehensive today than it was in the 60’s. All-in-all the commitment people make today to the sport of racing pigeons is much greater than ever before.

    So when people say to me that this is a dying sport I tell them quite the opposite is true. The sport has not only grown in terms of numbers compared to our own low numbers of fourty years ago, but those participating have a greater commitment than ever before. The sport is growing in stature and in numbers.

  255. #271 by "NO SWEAT" on November 24, 2009 - 10:46 pm

    The sport is only as good as its people.

    • #272 by terry on March 11, 2010 - 12:07 pm

      I person never said a truer statement.


  256. #273 by uncle on November 24, 2009 - 10:28 pm

    its all money ! we can survive in the small clubs but to progress is defeating and no way is it cost worthy to the little man ! most of us no so rich people are sitting on the fence and cannot afford to play in certain leagues because of money. work it out ! you rich people are living you’re own sport which is taking the sport to extinction and ruining it all as MPs and the rich do in politics. Spoilt brats as yourselves mess everything up. I can go for the catorgory of only a good pigeon wins but if you cant afford to enter. ???? work it out dopes! you are killing the sport ! no-one else.

  257. #274 by Orin on November 24, 2009 - 10:17 pm

    Yes, pigeon racing is definitely declining. There are many factors involved from cost to alternative hobbies or lifestyles to ordinances and CCR’s to just plain greed. The cost to fly is very prohibitive for most people . Also the cost of good birds is far too high. When I was a teenager many peers had birds but you don’t see that anymore. It seems that one loft races are taking over the sport with extreme entry fees. More needs to be done on a club by club level to get involved with groups like 4H and FFA to push this great hobby. Flyers need to be far more generous with help-no matter if it’s birds or loft construction or training or advice or fund raisers to help offset new flyer’s initial costs to get them started. It’s just plain tough competing with all the other interests that are available to young people today. Our combine is down to about one quarter of it’s one time number due to all of these reasons and I’m afraid that in 20 years or so the sport might be quite negligible. It’s a shame.

  258. #275 by John F DeCosta on November 24, 2009 - 10:03 pm

    I had pigeons as a young teenager and for a bunch of years to follow. Then, through my life ,I was repeatedly drawn back to raising pigeons. I chose rollers because of less expense and work involved but mostly the expense and much less work. I presently went back to pigeons late in my life after retirement and this time, I was given a great start by being given youngsters from two old timers with very good stock!They are very well known in the metro west area of Mass. I received them as youngsters back in May 2009 so I am now enjoying my own youngsters to train.I have two lofts as I have rollers as well. They are different and the training is different but in my opinion, no one is interested in enjoying this hobby especially now with the economy. It is a dieing breed and the ones who love pigeons and want to race or keep pigeons, the big expense areas are medication treatments, expense of a club, training expenses and numerous supplies that are all over the place with new clocks and equipment etc. Its a wonderful hobby but when you talk to people about it, they simply think, yea its interesting-then they look at you with expressions that they think you are nuts!I thnk you have to be brought up from the 50’s and 60’s to truly understand the magnetic love for this hobby. John F DeCosta

  259. #276 by Becky on November 24, 2009 - 10:02 pm

    Although there are new people trying it out all the time, it’s still going downhill from what I’ve seen. Probably the 50’s-80’s was the pigeon explosion around here. Several people in each town raised pigeons, although they may not have raced. The sad part there is, most of them have passed by now, or are just not able to continue with the hobby.
    So by saying it is dying out, that’s a pretty literal way to put it. Young people are what will keep it up one day. I think pigeon fanciers should try harder to inspire kids and young adults to try out pigeons. Even if they don’t jump right into racing, it’s a start. But I agree, a lot of people are turned away by the rising feed, bird, and shipping prices. Also, most kids probably have (or at least feel as if they have) nothing better to do than sit around and do nothing. Video games, music, getting into trouble, sleeping, tv, more sleeping…This could really be beneficial to them, don’t you think?

    • #277 by Frank Usry on March 11, 2010 - 9:53 am

      I think it would be good. I believe young people would like it, but most have never heard about it.

  260. #278 by Fred on November 24, 2009 - 9:46 pm

    Yes, I think the sport is declining in this area. Pigons are priced out of range for a beginner, and the feed and medication is skyrocketing each season. Feed in this area run from $22.00 to 32.00 a bag, depending on whether you want pellets or grain.

  261. #279 by Chris on November 24, 2009 - 9:28 pm

    Unfortunatley I personally think pigeon racing is a dying sport. I don’t think that pigeon racing can compete with todays technologies like video games and cell phones.

    • #280 by john on May 25, 2010 - 9:12 pm

      Chris i do AGREE with you that the sport is in bad shape,
      and dearly in need of lots of young blood………..But the big reason why I feel it’s on it’s way out the door is because sadly younger people prefer games to taking on the responsibility and commitment of taking care of live creatures such as pigeons, the world in my opinion would be a better place if younger persons would put in the care and commitment to such a wonderful sport as pigion racing!
      HOBBY/SPORT/BUSINESS!!! That is why it is dying!!
      John and Lynn

      • #281 by winston on September 25, 2010 - 6:07 pm

        The sport is slowly growing but strangly with more older fanciers. I also think that the pigeon bussiness and high priced birds are making it difficult for the young fancier to get started. I am also restarting in the sport. I am trying to locate to where I can fly pigeons and still have amy career. I am not intending on retiring anytime soon.

    • #282 by john on May 25, 2010 - 9:27 pm

      Sorry Chris i wanted just to let you know that i really enjoy your work on this new and exctting website your way ahead of your self and a TRUE pigeonman.
      The hobbie need more of you .

    • #283 by TONY G. on September 19, 2010 - 11:48 pm


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